"Burst" mode possible?

[Scott Crawley]

Well maybe, but the data rate could be lowered to fix that.

Possibly, but then we wouldn't be talking about Red RAW any more, at least not so far as I'm concerned.

You made the comparison to the Sony FS700 but what are you comparing exactly? When recording 120fps or 960 fps, what frame sizes does the FS700 actually deliver? What is the bit depth, the color depth? Are you saying that you would be happy with 120 fps on Scarlet at 8-bit?

Red set the quality bar at 16 bit 4:4:4 and I love that. 8-bit is sub par for a professional tool in my opinion and I don't want to see it cluttering my menus, but my real concern is not the clutter. I know that if the option exists to jump down to 8-bit or lower color depth etcetera then someone is going to insist that I use it and frankly I don't want to give up that quality, particularly for a shot that is bound to be an attention getter. It is not a conversation that I even want to have so it is better for me if it is not an option.

If 120 fps is required I am happy to rent Epic, but that's just me and my personal preference.

[Timothy Carr]

Possibly, but then we wouldn't be talking about Red RAW any more, at least not so far as I'm concerned.

You made the comparison to the Sony FS700 but what are you comparing exactly? When recording 120fps or 960 fps, what frame sizes does the FS700 actually deliver? What is the bit depth, the color depth? Are you saying that you would be happy with 120 fps on Scarlet at 8-bit?

Red set the quality bar at 16 bit 4:4:4 and I love that. 8-bit is sub par for a professional tool in my opinion and I don't want to see it cluttering my menus, but my real concern is not the clutter. I know that if the option exists to jump down to 8-bit or lower color depth etcetera then someone is going to insist that I use it and frankly I don't want to give up that quality, particularly for a shot that is bound to be an attention getter. It is not a conversation that I even want to have so it is better for me if it is not an option.

If 120 fps is required I am happy to rent Epic, but that's just me and my personal preference.

So what your saying is that, dont implement a feature because someone might use it? If you dont want to sacrifice quality, that you choice. What if the project didnt need that? what if you were outputting to web? True about the epic, but what if we didnt have the budget?

[Cedric Larvoire]

then rent a Sony FS700 :)

[Timothy Carr]

then rent a Sony FS700 :)

No, because if i have a camera, why can i use it?

[Scott Crawley]

So what your saying is that, dont implement a feature because someone might use it? If you dont want to sacrifice quality, that you choice. What if the project didnt need that? what if you were outputting to web? True about the epic, but what if we didnt have the budget?

You have to choose a camera that suits the needs of the project and the budget. If a Red doesn't fit that bill then it is entirely appropriate to choose something else.

[Gary Paul Walker]

No, because if i have a camera, why can i use it?

You can use your camera to do exactly what was stated in the specs. More things may come in future firmware releases, but right now RED have made good on what they said on Nov 3rd. You may have made a mistake purchasing a camera in the hope it'll do more than what RED have said.

If you need something outside the specs of the Scarlet, you can rent an Epic / Sony etc

[Cedric Larvoire]

I just meant if you have a specific need for lower quality slow-motion, then the scarlet is not the right kind of camera for that. The scarlet is a very specific piece of equipment that gives you fantastic quality at regular speed for a (somewhat) decent price.

If you want to go completely the other way from that, then RED would have to do a lot of compromises : 2K only (that also causes problems, using only part of the sensor), with a much stronger compression.
I'm not sure they would be ready to stand by the footage it will produce.

But maybe with the Dragon sensor upgrade, you will have more options.

[Timothy Carr]

Love a high FPS burst mode, would be great if possible.

Seems like the only guy that knows what i mean... Its a feature that would be nice.

[Mathieu Ghekiere]

Would be nice if it could be implemented. Maybe RED doesn't want to risk Scarlets overheating or hardware malfunctions because of burst modes, I don't know?

[Scott Crawley]

So what your saying is that, dont implement a feature because someone might use it?

No, I am saying don't implement a feature if it means you have to sacrifice quality.