I'm planning on buying a RED Pro Zoom 17-50 and a RED Prime of 85mm. That should cover the basics for film making on a budget.
Can anyone share experiences with Zeiss and RED lenses, how they compare. Would an 85 Zeiss be better than 85 Red prime?
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06-25-2012, 09:40 PM
I'm planning on buying a RED Pro Zoom 17-50 and a RED Prime of 85mm. That should cover the basics for film making on a budget.
Can anyone share experiences with Zeiss and RED lenses, how they compare. Would an 85 Zeiss be better than 85 Red prime?
06-25-2012, 09:45 PM
I found that the CP.2's breathe a lot more and really the RED Lenses are kick-ass.
06-25-2012, 09:57 PM
Haven't used the CP.2s, but just wrapped on a short shot on the RPPs yesterday. They were awesome... beautiful picture. Again, haven't used the CP.2s so I can't say anything bad about them. I also have the 17-50 and its worked a charm.
06-25-2012, 09:59 PM
Love my CP2's as well as my RPZ 18-85.
06-25-2012, 10:23 PM
I have two red pro primes (18 & 35) and two Cp.2 ... I've just gotten spoiled with the RPP's ... so I find i shoot 95% of my time with the RPP's. If you have a scarlet, due to the crop factor ... I'd think the 85 is more of a luxury item. BTW the lenses "feel" different between edit cuts, and I'm not sophisticate enough to figure out how to "correct" that "feel" (it makes for a bad cut, you also need to re shoot the color chart between switching between the cp2's and the RPP's). The RPP are perty heavy ... so I do use the CP.2 when I need a lighter setup, but i'm 99.9% of the time on a big rig so the weight doesn't matter. I'm a lens novice ... so these are more "feelings" then something scientific.
06-26-2012, 03:38 AM
Wow that's interesting that there would be so much difference that would issue a bad cut between lenses. Thanks for the tip, don't mix your lenses.
I've rented the CP2s before and I tend to use the 85's quite a lot even on a cropped sensor, so I don't see it as a luxury. I loved working with CP2's but can't afford to rent them each time and the RED zoom seems a pretty good option. I could opt for the 18-55 but I'm sure the top end won't be up to scratch and have more faith on the 17-50 which everyone seems to be happy with. The heaviness concerns me a little and they are quite slow at t.29. Appreciate your comments, cheers!
06-26-2012, 05:04 AM
Hi,
I used 2 sets of RPP's on a two-(RED)camera feature last year. They are fine optically and I can work with their weight, but we had constant issues with the mechanics and backfocus.
Because of this and because the rental company decided to abandon them all together I did not work with them again. Maybe we just had a bad batch.
I have been shooting a documentary with (mostly) the RED 17-50 and it turned out to be a fine lens with nice characteristics. It is big, but small enough to shoot handheld with.
And the range is perfect for regular filming. The the lack of flare pleasantly surprised me.
Earlier this year I bought a set of CP2's (21-28-35-50closefocus-85) and for the most part I am happy with them. I have been using them intensively on a TV series the past months.
The sharpness and brightness are fantastic although this is a matter of taste because you can find them a bit harsh.
My focuspuller had to get used to the fact that pulling focus can be a pain. The fall-off of these lenses is very steep, so the shot is either in focus or very out of focus - nothing in between.
This is specially the case with the 50mm closefocus because it's lack of markings in the 2-10 meter area. Ironically, this lens reproduces a gorgeous image, so despite my focuspuller I love to use it.
Do not use/buy the 18mm because it is really not sharp and it does not cover 5K.
A real sellingpoint is the fact that the CP2's have changeable mounts. I can easily switch between EF and PL mounts, so I can use it on all popular cameras.
Cheers,
Joost van Herwijnen
06-25-2012, 10:26 PM
10 times out of 10 I would choose the Red Pro Primes against the CP.2s.
06-25-2012, 10:29 PM
Right on...Originally Posted by Phil Holland
06-25-2012, 11:16 PM
I like them both, and they both have ups and downs. I chose to buy the CP2's as I actually like the image more than the RPP's and for their size and weight with my epic, and being able to cover full frame where the RPP's will not so if RED eventually go bigger and bigger with their sensors as they are they will not cover it. Either way the RPP's are stunning sharp glass, they both have pros and cons from build to imagery... I just prefe the Zeiss look.
As another thought...I also rent some gear to people I know and no one chooses the RPP's over the Zeiss CP2's...interesting don't you think?
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