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    Love the edit too Mark. Super tight - Perfect for a motor bike commercial. I bet you made the bike look much faster than it actually is :)
    Look is great by the way - Didnt look soft to me at all. Wouldnt have noticed anything unless you would not have pointed it out.

    Would you be so kind to roughly tell us how you did the static motor bike lighting (product shot) - Looks superb!
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    I'm also interested in what lenses Mr.Mullen prefers.
    What do you think of the new Cooke Panchros and upcoming Zeiss cp2 superspeeds. Both look interesting for the price point. Still deciding what to invest in.


    You are both an inspiration Mr.Toia and Mr.Mullen. (Keep it coming) :)
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    Being a renter I don't have to choose only one type of lens... Lately I've been using Primo primes from Panavision since that's where I am renting from.
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    Thanks Mr. MUllen.

    I guess that's more of a challenge. One has to produce the best picture he can with what limitations one has. I just wished to know what look you like best. Be it the sharper mp's for example or the perhaps slightly softer bokeh of the Cooke's.

    Thanks again.
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    Depends on the needs of the show, but in general I'd rather diffuse a sharper lens than use a softer lens because that way I can get my widest shots to look sharp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timur Civan View Post
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    This is my "Reserve" set. The set i'm saving for that one project..... that just needs the charm. These have been accumulated over the course of 15 years, with dozens of lenses bought and sold till i found the right ones. Each has a specific defect that makes it absolutely perfect.



    In order clockwise starting from the upper right:

    1: 135mm Telisar F4.5 - Has the most bizzare halo, which when flaring turns into a ghostly bright spot in the middle.
    2: 58mm Helios 44-2 F2.0 - My shining little star. Perfect portrait length, with a stunning vignette, softness while maintaining enough of the good resolution, and the most beautiful yet bizzarre bokeh i've found to date. Looks like a Dream.
    3: Soligor 2x M42 Tele extender, amplifies the flaws in each of the lenses, while turning each lens into 2. The medium wides become tele, and the tele lenses become super Tele.
    4:Asahi Super Takumar "Yellow Glass" 28mm F3.5. This lens is the famous radioactive Super Tak. Its elements are yellow, however it doesn't seem to turn the image yellow. It is sharp and has a very slight barrel distortion wich makes it feel wider than it is. Very interesting looking with architecture. The best part......the flares are ACID yellow, HUGE, Pentagonal, but without a major loss in contrast. This is one of my favorite lenses ever.
    5: Rikkenon 50mm F2.8 - This odd little lens has a ghostly low contrast veiling flare. Wide open, It seems to diffuse the light in the lens, which makes it feel like there is a net behind the lens, or a heavy promist filter in play. Stop down to a F5.6 and it cleans up nicely.
    6:Asahi Super Takumar "Yellow Glass" 50mm F2.0 - Another of my favorites. Not as Flare happy as the 28mm, but is VERY sharp, but still has a certain intangible beautiful quality to it.
    7: Zenitar MNP-24M 35mm F2.0 - I dont know much about this lens, but its an old Zenitar. It has classis 1970's feel, the lens is very classically bad. Soft corners, veiling flare, and hazy look wide open.
    8: Sankyo Koki "Tokyo Kumara" 105mm F3.5 - This lens is quite cool, scary sharp, relatively neutral, but has 16 oddly shaped iris blades, so its bokeh resembles a mix between the Cooke S4/iPanchro flower, and the Panavision Buzzsaw bokeh from 25 years ago on the old Primos. I like this lens as it behaves well in the traditional sense, but has that weird bokeh.... always a reminder....
    9: Zenitar Jupiter-9 85mm F2.0 - This is another rather interesting lens. Its optical qualities are just bizzare, neither sharp nor consistent, what it lacks in perfection it makes up for in character. Extremely contrasty, it stands out from the crowd because unlike most old lenses, it has a VERY deep and rich contrast and color rendition, so it appears very sharp at first glance, but it has some of the oddest donut shaped bokeh, and out of focus image rendition. Its bohek looks almost in focus.... like it was artificially done in post, with a instagram "donut" gimmick.

    Mark, The spot looks awesome. Love the light in the bar. Definitly use the SSmkI's again!
    I'll be greedy and ask the obvious question: do you have any footage from these lenses to share?
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    Will put something up in another in the lens test section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timur Civan View Post
    Check +.

    This is my "Reserve" set. The set i'm saving for that one project..... that just needs the charm. These have been accumulated over the course of 15 years, with dozens of lenses bought and sold till i found the right ones. Each has a specific defect that makes it absolutely perfect.



    In order clockwise starting from the upper right:

    1: 135mm Telisar F4.5 - Has the most bizzare halo, which when flaring turns into a ghostly bright spot in the middle.
    2: 58mm Helios 44-2 F2.0 - My shining little star. Perfect portrait length, with a stunning vignette, softness while maintaining enough of the good resolution, and the most beautiful yet bizzarre bokeh i've found to date. Looks like a Dream.
    3: Soligor 2x M42 Tele extender, amplifies the flaws in each of the lenses, while turning each lens into 2. The medium wides become tele, and the tele lenses become super Tele.
    4:Asahi Super Takumar "Yellow Glass" 28mm F3.5. This lens is the famous radioactive Super Tak. Its elements are yellow, however it doesn't seem to turn the image yellow. It is sharp and has a very slight barrel distortion wich makes it feel wider than it is. Very interesting looking with architecture. The best part......the flares are ACID yellow, HUGE, Pentagonal, but without a major loss in contrast. This is one of my favorite lenses ever.
    5: Rikkenon 50mm F2.8 - This odd little lens has a ghostly low contrast veiling flare. Wide open, It seems to diffuse the light in the lens, which makes it feel like there is a net behind the lens, or a heavy promist filter in play. Stop down to a F5.6 and it cleans up nicely.
    6:Asahi Super Takumar "Yellow Glass" 50mm F2.0 - Another of my favorites. Not as Flare happy as the 28mm, but is VERY sharp, but still has a certain intangible beautiful quality to it.
    7: Zenitar MNP-24M 35mm F2.0 - I dont know much about this lens, but its an old Zenitar. It has classis 1970's feel, the lens is very classically bad. Soft corners, veiling flare, and hazy look wide open.
    8: Sankyo Koki "Tokyo Kumara" 105mm F3.5 - This lens is quite cool, scary sharp, relatively neutral, but has 16 oddly shaped iris blades, so its bokeh resembles a mix between the Cooke S4/iPanchro flower, and the Panavision Buzzsaw bokeh from 25 years ago on the old Primos. I like this lens as it behaves well in the traditional sense, but has that weird bokeh.... always a reminder....
    9: Zenitar Jupiter-9 85mm F2.0 - This is another rather interesting lens. Its optical qualities are just bizzare, neither sharp nor consistent, what it lacks in perfection it makes up for in character. Extremely contrasty, it stands out from the crowd because unlike most old lenses, it has a VERY deep and rich contrast and color rendition, so it appears very sharp at first glance, but it has some of the oddest donut shaped bokeh, and out of focus image rendition. Its bohek looks almost in focus.... like it was artificially done in post, with a instagram "donut" gimmick.

    Mark, The spot looks awesome. Love the light in the bar. Definitly use the SSmkI's again!
    Timur you are a man after my own heart. I'm constantly trolling for weird lenses. Nice collection!
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    Really cool Look and cut! Great work, Mark!

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    Very nice work man!
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    Looks stunning!
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