Intellectual Property from an Inventors POV

[Rob Ruffo]

Intellectual Property is not depending on quantity, nor price, nor delivery timeline.

It is not depending on team size or money invested.

A development, a creation belongs to who invents it. really simple.

i can fully understand the hordes of "thieves" that are not able to come up with an original idea, thought or process.
I can fully understand, that many want to shine, make a profit, take advantage, have a quick fix.

It is easy to steal.

There is a HUGE difference between "stealing" ... or being inspired to improve a frustrating experience offered by a lesser product and improve on it.

The true inventor, respects legacy, acknowledges and knows about the painstaking efforts of "the other party".


What is disturbing to me is this: people these days go on the streets and protest for the right to share, easy access to and consume stolen stuff .... ridiculous.!
They proclaim, our cultural evolution is in danger .... crazy.

it is heartbreaking and bad.

... someone comes up with a great idea, a great improvement to life (as i did in software under the harshest conditions for 7 years, because i have decided to)
and then, the next burglar should be allowed to take it and make it his own?

Boys, i tell you, the stuff i have invented during the last years is so obvious, every one will make it their own, simplicity is so obvious in retrospect.

But funny enough, not a single of the major players did it (not adobe, not apple, not google) and i was desperately waiting for them, really.!!

So, simple story: no copyright protection, no software, people go on suffering ... very, very simple.

we MUST wake up to the reality of the inventor, the creator, the artist, the people that drive our future,
that entertain us, that improve our lifes with technology and media and provide for our well being.


we need protection. we need a better attitude from our audience and clients.

Any thoughts?

to a better future
cheers,

Detlev



P.S. ... http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthr...-and-to-design

Well said. I applaud your post.

[Rob Ruffo]

Detlev,

The website we are all discussing this on - reduser.net - is running Apache HTTP server (as do the majority of the worlds websites). It is and always has been free, given away for nothing, hacked on by many people all round the world. Likewise for BIND, which holds the internet together and enables us to communicate.

A lot of people make a LOT of money from these - and many other - freely given away programs.

All these programs are subject to copyright law, only with them it works the other way around; copyright law is used to prevent anyone taking exclusive control of them. Anyone can make money from them any way they can be smart enough to figure out, but no-one can do it *exclusively* or take control.

Sometimes it's about monetisation, and there's nothing wrong with that. But sometimes it's just about control. There's more than one path to this. You're a coder; would your big project have been easier, faster and more successful if you had open-sourced it and got many minds to hack on it?

Mike

Sounds lovely. That said, not a way to feed your family from your work.

We also forget, when someone competes with something free, they put everybody else out of business.

[Gavin Greenwalt]

Sounds lovely. That said, not a way to feed your family from your work.

We also forget, when someone competes with something free, they put everybody else out of business.

It also sometimes frees up workers to stop reinventing the wheel though too.

[Josh Beadle]

Detlev,

Love the passion, enthusiasm and simple world view of good & evil, right & wrong . . . but . . . "Everything is a Remix":

http://vimeo.com/14912890
http://vimeo.com/19447662
http://vimeo.com/25380454
http://vimeo.com/36881035

You have not done anything that was not somehow inspired, started or enhanced by others. i certainly don't lose sleep knowing that my creative and innovative self is heavily shaped by others. True for Apple, True for RED, True for WC, True for the real smart Scientists working on the Higgs Bason project.

Over 20 years I authored about 20 utility Patents. My work, like everyone before or since, was incremental and improvement over what was already in the market. If I didn't "invent" a certain something - then someone else would have in time. Patent laws don't protect innovation - they reward those with big lawyer budgets and a strategy of aggression. As an innovator the cost to defend your patent starts at about $250K - not an exercise for the common Joe. Speed to market, creative destruction (shit canning your own best sellers) and operational excellence is what wins in the long run - not camping out on generic design patents or milking archaic music distribution business models etc and suing folks to limit competition.

Check out what Louis CK has done recently through innovative distribution to keep his art producing revenue. Hint: it didn't involve hiring a team of DRM lawyers or bending over for TicketMaster

http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/10/sabo/
http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/n...t-fee-20120626

[Detlev Eller]

Josh! ... thank you ... i do totally agree, that we and our inventions are product of heritage. 100%.
It is the element of improvement, that is worth the recognition.

I think, there is just a tiny little difference, between "something" ... and "something really beautiful, useful, extraordinary, super efficient". To create that difference - takes either "genius inspiration" or hard work .... probably both most of the time.

in retrospect, i would say, it would have been better for the product to get out into the world and create a platform, back in 2004/2005 ...

the fact that in 2012, everything "web design and systems" is still done in the same "complicated, resource wasting time" and no one is coming up with the obvious,
tells me that i have put something together, that is worth protecting .... protection creates the asset, "free" sharing on the web is a mere invitation for "pirates" with a wider reach.

I want adoption, i want people to use it, to imitate, to improve on it and make me smile, i really do!

I say it again: I have been thinking, hard thinking, throwing away hundreds of approaches, thousands lines of code, reinventing, condensing and reaching "impossible" goals.

All by reducing my personal life´s pleasures and needs to the bare minimum, for 7 years! ... somewhere in the lonely desert, in an old cow stable (true!), as i used to say.

the real issue i see is this:
The concepts and tools i have created work perfectly well in concert. it needs a little bit of mental reframing, to get the simplicity of it. then its pure power. pure speed. a couple of hours of training. and people are ready to go and add there own. In the first 5 years of "the web" (1995-2000), the web technology has been massively abused, big time, people went down the wrong track - and still do.

In my heart, i want to shout it out, make videos, explain and share for it would create a better web and a better life for us online citizen. (didn´t want to write online junkies ... lol)

I guess, with the right partner, a global player with wide reach, i would favor that approach, get everything out and go back to what i love from my soul, making beautiful images and "finding the story".

I just do not want to do it "half" ... wouldn´t be right. .... and after all, what motivated me to push through the years, was the outlook of producing my pictures independently ... so, i need that "fix" .... :-)

cheers to all,
thanks for contributing

:-))

[Detlev Eller]

... regarding open source, heritage and attribution:

I do use apache, mysql, php, jquery. the bare minimum of it. excellent peer work, BIG THANK YOU, without, i could not have done what i did.
I have studied countless books, about the technology, CSS, HTML and so forth.

Without the accumulated thinking, research, code work and distribution of these authors and their works, i would do something else. (probably shooting pictures, ouch!)

Although i think, that these technologies could be vastly simplified and reduced to speed up thinks. they are blown up, catering to the infinite ways and needs(?) of millions(?) of web masters, web designers and so forth ...

It´s to big. to complex. easy to get lost, to forget, to do something wrong. to much for one brain.

So, i thought, how about reducing it, to the bare minimum, finding the repetitive stuff, structure it different, so that the output always works, everything is in place,
all dependencies are properly set ... and so forth ... and then, create powerful tools on top, that reflect the way an artist or designer approaches problems - which is usually infinitely more elegant and useful compared to a code nerd... ;-) ...

Guess, the answer is in the right balance.

Uhh, would love to have it out and move on!!!!

:-)

[Detlev Eller]

... Over 20 years I authored about 20 utility Patents. My work, like everyone before or since, was incremental and improvement over what was already in the market. ...

AWESOME!

... Speed to market, creative destruction (shit canning your own best sellers) and operational excellence is what wins in the long run ...

Josh, I´d love to hear more about this!

[Detlev Eller]

... anyone got a link into Google management? ... please PM me ... thanks!