Dragon will actually be higher res than Sony's "8k" F65

[Kevin Marshall]

I work with Zeiss Standards a lot - I don't mind them much at all...though the DP that I work for that has them keeps them pretty nice. They porthole a bit on the Epic on the wide end till about T4 or so, and they're not as fast as modern glass, but they certainly hold up. Definitely more a fan of his Super Baltars and Leica-Rs, though...

Back on topic...it's funny how some of the same people that would get on my case about Red's pixel counting were the first to boast to me about Sony's "8K." I'd like to see it on Graeme's zone plates of death...

[Justin O'Neill]

Back on topic...it's funny how some of the same people that would get on my case about Red's pixel counting were the first to boast to me about Sony's "8K." I'd like to see it on Graeme's zone plates of death...

5.8k should be plenty for a nice 4k debayer so I expect it will hold up pretty well. Being that it only records 4k anyways it is mind boggeling why Sony thought it would be beneficial to claim the sensor is 8k. There have been rumors they will enable higher res record modes...definitely won't be 8k though, that up-rezing would look ghastly!

[Jacek Zakowicz]

yep, uprezzing to 8K would definitely look ghastly

[Cid J Salcido Uyarra]

I am not a Arri standards fan personally, nor am I insulted. That said, Evin Grant who is most certainly a lens snob, makes a compelling case for the standards and has proved it to me with actual images taken with well maintained samples. In any case, if you actually care about my taste in lenses, the new Leica "C"s are spectacular. If you disagree with that, then we can throw down ;-).

Good shooting.

Cheers - #19

the zeiss is great glass it's just by this point in time when I started to get my hands on them you can tell it was damaged goods. Standard Primes and MkI &MkII it depended on the shoot sometimes we got mixs with even different labeling some had Metric some had Imperial LOL

who can argue with the leica summilux c

doesn't Tom Lowe shoot with them?



skin tones, contrast and sharpness are on point

it's a solid look

but i have to bow down to the the Pani 11:1 and the PCZ of course they are zooms but I would live on those all day if I could.

I'm curious to see Pani's new Digi line of Cameras and Lens, from what I've heard they have a new 2/3, S35, and IMAX Digi cams with specific lens and follow focus which is Primo. But you'll never be able to own it LOL. Since the follow focus is in the back with the weight of the camera you're never working against the operator on pans and mad focus wracks. The pull momentum is with the core of the body. It's by far a great design beats any Arri FF or 3rd Party unit.

Optimo has def made a come back I see allot of their glass on shoots. Have you seen the two new zooms!! They can go between PL and PV mount. they are beastly babies though.
the 17-80 is gonna be the next best thing and its a 2.2 wooop wooop

[William Kamp]

You should take a look at this article as well. Its a great counter point to the 6k 5 micron dragon sensor. Its a great read.

http://info.adimec.com/blogposts/bid...Machine-Vision

Also, to counter some points about F65 workflow, lets remember when RED was (and still can be) quite tedious in post. Its no P2, DVCPRO, SRMASTER or XDCAM.

Will