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    Quote Originally Posted by Blair S. Paulsen View Post
    There has been talk of a B4 lens adapter for RedOne. S16 lenses are fine optically but the feature sets of modern video lenses are widely prized. The ability to use B4 mount lenses would speed adoption by broadcasters, AV cos. and others into hardline applications. I have even suggested what I call an "EFP pack" that would provide industry standard interfaces between the RedOne and hardline infrastructure. All of this may require 3rd party rigging but I agree with you - the price performance proposition will entice a much larger group than just the digital cinema crowd.
    Great idea Blair. It may be sacrilege to dumb down the Red but I'd be more than happy to take a 2K, B4 only Red with an onboard standard lens plug for servo power for HD ENG lenses. It would still be more than what is on offer today from current manufacturers.

    To round out the current Red One I'm hoping for a Red prime set to be announced at NAB 07. Sign me up.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketeer View Post
    It may be sacrilege to dumb down the Red but I'd be more than happy to take a 2K, B4 only Red with an onboard standard lens plug for servo power for HD ENG lenses.
    Pedantic technical point, but it would be 1080p not 2K with a B4 mount lens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin View Post
    Pedantic technical point, but it would be 1080p not 2K with a B4 mount lens.

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    I'll take 1080p up to 60fps and 720 @ 120fps at the 2/3" B4 spec.
    I'm sure some would say you could 12 volt power an ENG lens servo with an offboard battery and adapter cable and use the the Red B4 lens adapter promised to get the same result.
     

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    You can power the B4 servo from an accessory power tap on the camera, no need to use a separate battery.

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    Stuart English recently posted that RED is considering not one, but two 12-volt auxiliary taps on RED One - plenty of power for any accessories, including the servos of a B4 2/3" HD ENG lens.

    Last December, when I attended the first spec meeting for RED One at Oakley headquarters, I requested that RED One, beyond its normal digital cinema functions, also include capability for EFP and ENG-style production, including 12-volt power from the camera. I've been lobbying for those things to make the final spec ever since then. I already knew the camera would be a great tool for my cine-style productions, but I also wanted it to be versatile enough to satisfy my EFP-style production requirements.

    Why? To me, one of the coolest things about RED One is the wide variety of Cine-style and EFP-style productions it will be able to be used on - thus generating a lot more revenue than a one-dimensional digital cinema camera.

    We're artists, but motion media production is a business. As a businessman I want a tool that can generate the maximum amount of revenue. That's why I have supported RED from the very beginning - plus I really believe in the management and staff of RED.
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    As you're probably aware Gibby, most cameras have an AB tap near the front where the handle joins the body and a 12-volt hi-rose at the rear. The traditional use has been an onboard light or monitor from the AB tap and sound usually make use of the hi-rose for the radio link if not using batteries.

    You can extend your 12-volt options by having an AB tap as part of your battery plate, V-lock or AB. Some batteries even include an onboard AB tap built into them.

    My wish would be for one of the Red 12-volt taps to be close to where the lens would mount to allow the easy connection of a 2/3" HD ENG lens with a short adapter cable.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketeer View Post
    My wish would be for one of the Red 12-volt taps to be close to where the lens would mount to allow the easy connection of a 2/3" HD ENG lens with a short adapter cable.
    That's my wish too, but if they've already engineered it being somewhere else on the camera, we'll just have to use a longer cable. At any rate, I'm way stoked that they are considering including the 12-volt taps.

    On another note...we're looking forward to getting down to New Zealand and Australia sometime in 2007. It will be cool meeting you Rocketeer!
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    Enough accommodations are in place for that, you will be pleased Gibby! More on that later.
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    "More on that later..." there is a lot of teasing from the red Team going on at the moment. All quite exciting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Lohman View Post
    Enough accommodations are in place for that, you will be pleased Gibby! More on that later.
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