Click here to go to the first RED TEAM post in this thread.   Thread: Red Dragon Info and Data Sheets

Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 21 1234511 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 210
  1. #1 Red Dragon Info and Data Sheets 
    Moderator Phil Holland's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Posts
    9,648
    Greetings everybody. As official information comes in regarding Dragon I'll be posting links to that info and uploading some useful graphics to help visualize Dragon's feature set right here in the first post of this thread.

    ** Updated 10/20/2014


    Dragon Models and Pricing:
    - Epic Carbon Dragon **: price = $50,000, availability = Shipping now!
    - Epic-M Dragon: price = $29,000, availability = Upgrades currently happening!
    - Epic-X Dragon: price = $24,000, availability = Upgrades soon and some have happened. New Brains soon.
    - Epic-M Monochrome Dragon: price = $31,500 (Brain Only), availability = Shipping now!
    - Scarlet Dragon: price = $14,500 (Brain Only), availability = Shipping now!

    ** The Epic Carbon Dragon features a carbon fiber exterior, magnesium alloy internal frame, and magnesium PL mount. The combination of these things shaves exactly 1 pound off the camera body's weight. Note there are now Magnesium Lens Mounts for Canon EF, Nikon F, and Leica M as well.


    Epic Upgrade Options:
    - Epic-M owners can pre-order the upgrade for $9500
    - Early Red adopters can pre-order for $9500 and receive a $1000 store credit when invoiced.
    - Epic-X owners can pre-order their upgrade at $9500 4/11/2013.
    - New Epic-M Dragon cameras will be sold for $29K, pre-orders now. Ships after Epic-M owners have had their chance to upgrade.
    - Epic-X Dragon cameras will be priced at $24K, shipping and release information unknown at this time.
    - It is possible to upgrade to an Epic Carbon Dragon for $19,750. Contact your Bomb Squad Rep as this is a special process.


    Scarlet Upgrade Options:
    - Trade in your Scarlet-X to upgrade to Epic-X with the Mysterium-X sensor for $9500. Upgrade your Epic-X to Full Epic Dragon for an additional $9500.
    - Upgrade the Scarlet-X to Scarlet Dragon for $9500. Scarlet Dragon will be a 5K, 60fps camera.
    - Upgrade your Scarlet-X straight to Epic Dragon for $19,000.
    - Pre-orders for upgrades begin Thursday, upgrades start in July.
    - Scarlet Dragon price and availability TBD.
    * There are no plans to be able to upgrade from Scarlet Dragon to Epic Dragon at this time.


    Other information:
    - Is the Red One eligable to upgrade to Dragon? No. Epic was the upgrade path for the Red One. (source)


    What Does the Epic Dragon Upgrade Include?
    Learn more here: https://support.red.com/entries/2376...grade-include-


    Official Red Dragon FAQ
    https://support.red.com/categories/20105758-RED-DRAGON





    Red Dragon - What is 6K?






    Red Dragon - Multi-Format System







    Red Dragon - Format Aspect Ratios







    Red Dragon - ISO / FLUT Breakdown







    Red Dragon - ISO Examples







    Red Dragon - Film Relevance




    A quick look at the Sensor Chart too. Notably Red's Mysterium-X Sensor at 5K FF falls just within Dragon 5.5K.









    Red Dragon - GUI Overview







    Red Dragon - Black Shade, Temp, and Fan Info







    Red Dragon - On Screen Exposure Tools






    Red Dragon - In Camera Exposure Tools







    Red Dragon - Focus and White Balance








    Red Dragon - REDCODE RAW and REDMAG Info








    Red Dragon - Anamorphic Shooting








    Red Dragon - Format Key 2014

    I have split up the Format Key into two pages. 6K-4K and 3.5K-2K. There's a good deal of productions now shooting at 4K and up for a 4K finish and they may only need the first page.








    Red Dragon Record Times 24fps 256GB REDMAG



    * note - Record times are for a stock 256GB REDMAG and don't reflect the additional REDCODE Compression Ratios available on the 512GB REDMAG and other high speed media cards.





    Red Dragon Interchangeable OLPFS

    Last edited by Phil Holland; 10-20-2014 at 07:26 PM.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  2. #2  
    Senior Member Brad Allen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    NSW, Australia
    Posts
    755
    Thanks for doing this Phil,

    As always, your effort and presence on the forum is truly appreciated :)

    Edit: just a heads up that the source for the new color science seems to be pointing to an invalid link. :)
    Last edited by Brad Allen; 01-14-2013 at 07:24 PM.
    Brad Allen

    mob: +61 411 350 829
    web: unravel.com.au
    Reply With Quote  
     

  3. #3  
    Senior Member Bob Gundu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Toronto, ON Canada
    Posts
    9,219
    Nice. I look forward to the pages growing.
    ___________________________

    VFX, Cinematographer, Photographer
    10 frame handles
    Vimeo
    Instagram
    Reply With Quote  
     

  4. #4  
    Senior Member Jon Carr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    1,532
    Thank you very much for taking the time to do this. This has everything that was asked and answered to. Thanks again.
    Dp Reel
    http://www.joncarrdp.com
    Camera & Lighting Rentals in NYC
    http://www.visualcinema.com/rentals/cameras/
    Instagram
    http://instagram.com/joncarrdp
    Carbon Fiber WEAPON Helium #651 "MISTRESS"
    DJI Ronin 2 R2D2
    Schneider Xenon FF primes PL

    It's REDcode or no code...
    Reply With Quote  
     

  5. #5  
    Senior Member Paul Ellington's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    New York City
    Posts
    1,650
    Looking good Phil - should be a wild ride!

    Paul Ellington
    director/dp & writer

    Reply With Quote  
     

  6. #6  
    Senior Member Doug Beatty's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Posts
    875
    Nice post as usual, Phil.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  7. #7  
    Thanks for doing this Phil. You are on the hunt for the 1,000,000 questions.

    May I ask where the 30.7x15.8 came from? Your link shows Jannard saying 30x15.8. Curious because I've never seen the 30.7 number and that makes a considerable difference to me, as I'm doing Pythagorean theorem calculations to see what the image circles will be to cover.

    -ryan
    Thank you Red Team for unlocking/correcting the i/data technology. Cooke lenses are reading correctly and all his happy in Cooke/Epic land. Thanks!
    Reply With Quote  
     

  8. #8  
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    NYC area
    Posts
    88
    A wild ride!! and a whole new world of possibilities. THANKS RED !!!
    Reply With Quote  
     

  9. #9  
    Moderator Phil Holland's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Posts
    9,648
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Patrick O'Hara View Post
    May I ask where the 30.7x15.8 came from? Your link shows Jannard saying 30x15.8. Curious because I've never seen the 30.7 number and that makes a considerable difference to me, as I'm doing Pythagorean theorem calculations to see what the image circles will be to cover.
    It does make a difference for sure. I did the calculation based on the pixel's micron size and it was confirmed in August by Jarred in that summary post I made, the other source cited. That's correct as far as I know at the moment. If we're talking square pixels and that calculation is correct than the size listed makes sense.

    I've already made a coverage chart for the expected formats, but since the format's haven't been officially "locked down" I don't think it's a good idea to release them just yet because anything can change. The key bits are what's being shown on the Red Dragon and Film Formats graphic. The diagonal on 6K Full would be 34.54mm with the sensor size above.


    **edit, found the post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarred Land View Post
    10% larger both ways is a good ballpark... 30.7mm x 15.8mm
    Phil Holland - Cinematographer - Los Angeles
    ________________________________
    phfx.com IMDB
    PHFX | tools

    RED Weapon 8K VV Dragon "Orochi"
    RED Weapon 8K VV Monstro "Skully"

    Data Sheets and Notes:
    Red Weapon/DSMC2
    Red Dragon
    Reply With Quote  
     

  10. #10  
    Senior Member Sean Cruser's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Posts
    315
    this is great and i can't wait for there to be even MORE to add...
    Director.Cinematographer.Editor
    Burning Shade Productions
    www.vimeo.com/seancruser
    Reply With Quote  
     

Posting Permissions
  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts