Will Scarlet take over the HVX200

[Barry Green]

That's not an answer to the EX1, that's a replacement for the DVX100. The HMC150 is a model below the HVX, not a replacement for it. It'll probably cost around half of what the EX1 does.

[sparkhope]

13 Mbps stream onto 6Mbps media? Am I missing something?

[vincelucero]

With that said, i believe for scarlet to be succesful, its gotta deliver to the market A.S.A.P and we shouldnt have to wait in a huge lineup for it. Otherwise, someone out there might come up with something better and deliver it faster

Red One didn't and was a HUGE success for Jim and his company. :greedy: Theres something to be said about hype in relation to demand and profits. Scarlet will kill it as long as they release in the next year. The tech is light years away from what others are offering at the same pricepoint.

[Ethan Cooper]

I know it's been said, but let me say it again. The HMC150 is not intended to be the HVX replacement, it's a step or two below the HVX in Panasonic's product line. The HVX replacement will not be AVCHD recorded to SD cards, it will most likely be AVCIntra recorded on P2.
At this point with Scarlet, I'm tired of the speculation and ready for NAB so we know just what the hell this camera is.
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[Dylan Reeve]

If anyone is complaining about Long-GOP in XDCAM EX (or even HDV) they're going to be disappointed by AVCHD.

[Darren Orange]

I think the answer is YES. Scarlet is out to take over that market area. Someone somewhere on here said that Sony wanted to sell 1 million ex1's. If thats true....Basicly all Scarlet has to do is be less expensive than HVX or EX1 and Scarlet takes over. I am sure Red planned to take the this market from day one, Scarlet is the answer!

[Barry Green]

A million EX1s? That's insane. They'd be lucky to sell 1/10th that amount, over the course of five years.

[Joel Kaye]

A million EX1s? That's insane. They'd be lucky to sell 1/10th that amount, over the course of five years.

Is there any good source to find out how many units of the major cameras actually get sold?

[Barry Green]

No, there's only the inflated numbers the manufacturers themselves release. But I spent a lot of time trying to figure this out, to determine how big a market there was before plunging into six months' work to write each book; I've talked to dealers on three continents, I've talked to lens and accessory manufacturers, I've taken the numbers the factories talk about, and the best guess I can come up with would be that there were about 100,000 to 120,000 DVX100s sold worldwide. And the DVX was a game-changer, one of the biggest-selling camcorders ever. And that's counting almost six years of sales, all combined.

As for Panasonics, they're claiming 60,000 P2 units worldwide (since it was unveiled in 2004). That's for ALL P2 cameras (SPX800, SPC700, HPX2000, HPX2100, HPX3000, and HVX200). That's sales to individuals, to production companies, to broadcasters, to networks, everyone -- and they're getting 80% of broadcast sales here and in Europe. So all together that's 60,000. Figure on well over half of that being HVX200s, and that would give you maybe 35,000 to 40,000 HVXs worldwide. Which is about on track with the DVX at this point in its life, 2 years in.

Sony, last I saw, was claiming 14,000 XDCAM units sold worldwide, including standard-def and high-def combined -- and that's not just cameras, that also included decks and readers and whatnot.

Consumer units are a whole different ballgame; Canon claims they'll sell 25,000 to 35,000 consumer cams PER MONTH. But those are cameras that go for a lot less, you know, $500 to $900 and such. That's for units that are sold in Wal-Mart and Best Buy and Circuit City, inexpensive consumer cams. The EX1 is more expensive than the HVX. If I was to guess, I'd guess it would have a worldwide saturation point of somewhere around 80,000. But it'll take four or five years to get to that point.

[Darren Orange]

Thanks for the info Barry!