SCRATCH Price

[Anthony Gratl]

In all fairness no matter what peoples opinions and points of view happen to be concerning this product or the people who happen to currently represent them on these boards its good to be curtious and show respect.

I get the sence of hyena like behavior the way people are nipping and jabbing at Lukas. Make a valid point and he will answer you, he always has.

He has a job to do and is doing it to the best of his abilities and I think he has always been curtious in his replys. I wouldnt have the patience to deal with getting the same questions over and over again and still maintain some tone of friendlyness. Cut the guy some slack, he is just a guy like you and me he just happens to have the job he has. Someone has to do it. Put yourself in his position for a moment and give him a break.

Take a deep breath and formulate your point of view, but for the sake of the thread and the standard of this community and what it stands for please refrain from badgering like Vulturs.

Dog Day.

a hyena i am not, if you're refering to me. lucas is a big boy firstoff, and I have a lot of respect for him. I'm sure it's not easy, especially with the group of hardcore redusers that we are. And I don't think we'd be discussing with him as much as we are if we didn't like what he's talking about and the product he represents. Then again, as director of marketing, he chose this approach, so if things aren't adding up, he'll get called on it. On the other hand, i don't think he has any obligation to reveal price at all. My comment was simply directed at his specific comment because I didn't agree with what he said in that particular post.
Lucas, no nipping and jabbing intended at all. The link was just supposed to be humourous is all. So maybe I have a twisted sense of humour. But the "not mutually exclusive" line is a classic, as I'm sure you know.

Peace.
And dog day, afternoon to you sir.

[Wendy Woods]

So, has anyone actually been able to get the list price for SCRATCH, fully-configured? If so, I think the number would be of great interest to this community...

I went to HD Expo in Los Angeles and was talking to someone from PlasterCity Digital Post. I asked him what the price tag for just the software "100K".

I also heard from David Leif at Globalstor that there is only one mother board that can bus the thru-put of the Red Raw files.

all of this is word of mouth.

[Clint Johnson]

A few days ago, we were told...



(...where The Cube is at least $16,437.00)

Today, we were told...



It becomes really interesting...

I don't see anything particular "interesting" about it... if the Cube is $16,347.00 then we must be getting about $38,563.00 worth of Scratch and modules- I presume the ones most useful with the Red in a "pre-post" environment. Surely your calculator can handle subtracting $16,347.00 from $55,000?

Just curious, what is it that you find interesting about this?

[Tony Post]

Third bundle is Color Grading which enables editing plus scaffolding and color correction:

http://silverado.cc/shop/product.php...cat=120&page=1

Hello Torster,

Great to see some hard information on the cost of modules and extensions in Scratch. The color correction package seems like a good deal, - "SCRATCH software configuration for color grading of 4k RED ONE material and other data-centric motion picture imagery" - but in the blurb it does not specify that the Media Layer extension is included. Media Layer is necessary for working with Red footage. Is this an oversight?

Also because the Edit module is included, conform is also part of this package right?

Regards

Tony

[Sven Seynaeve]

Mmost, I'm certainly aware of this, but my question is as simple as this:

WILL THERE BE A 4K output possible as UPGRADE when hardware manufacturers seems to have the sollution for this (and nvidia must certainly have , because they have a system capable acting as 4k server for cinema (seen on their site; http://www.nvidia.com/page/quadroplex.html) ?????
and will Assimilate do the effort to bring us these kind of updates????
That's what especially my clients are asking for????

Will it be available at a reasonable price,
if i have the SAN built already in advance for being capable of this,,

anyway, Nacho and the dutch company , who seems to be some of the close parters to Scratch here completed a "working system for this" as I asked. But they are counting at least €25000 for installing this system in about 3 days with 1 year support contract. Having not that much experience in the field on this , is this normal pricing????? Because they do build it networks, but they have no clue I suppose about making features andso.

[Lucas Wilson]

Mmost, I'm certainly aware of this, but my question is as simple as this:

WILL THERE BE A 4K output possible as UPGRADE when hardware manufacturers seems to have the sollution for this (and nvidia must certainly have , because they have a system capable acting as 4k server for cinema (seen on their site; http://www.nvidia.com/page/quadroplex.html) ?????
and will Assimilate do the effort to bring us these kind of updates????
That's what especially my clients are asking for????

Will it be available at a reasonable price,
if i have the SAN built already in advance for being capable of this,,

anyway, Nacho and the dutch company , who seems to be some of the close parters to Scratch here completed a "working system for this" as I asked. But they are counting at least €25000 for installing this system in about 3 days with 1 year support contract. Having not that much experience in the field on this , is this normal pricing????? Because they do build it networks, but they have no clue I suppose about making features andso.

Hey Sven,

You may be confused. Nacho has not quoted *anything* with the Quadroplex, because that is not a supported system!!!

Also - you may want to search the threads here. I've stated several times that Quadroplex is not used for 4K serving to a projector. Its architecture simply doesn't support that sort of very high-throughput streaming. SCRATCH *can* feed an SXRD in 4K via Quadroplex. We've done it several times in full 4K. But it isn't realtime playback, so we stopped pursuing it.

If your clients are demanding realtime 4K pixel-for-pixel, then I assume you already have a Sony SXRD, yes?

Lucas
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ASSIMILATE, Inc.
LA, CA, USA

[Jeff Brue]

We had Scratch doing DI's before it was even announced that they were going with Red. It was a rather pleasent suprise, Lucas is a great fellow, and a friend. Also hate to be the one that says it but if you're hiding behind an Alias throwing insults on a web forum, you're not the one making movies. Get off the forum and make something or at least do what I'm doing and post on red user while you have 10 red renders going, and you're tired out of your mind because of the upheavel this camera has caused.

[Lucas Wilson]

I went to HD Expo in Los Angeles and was talking to someone from PlasterCity Digital Post. I asked him what the price tag for just the software "100K".

I also heard from David Leif at Globalstor that there is only one mother board that can bus the thru-put of the Red Raw files.

all of this is word of mouth.

Hi 2pop,

SCRATCH with all modules and all extensions and everything I can think of to put on it does not come close to 100K. Plus, I'm the guy that sold the system to Plaster City, and I can promise you they didn't pay 100K. :)

Dave Leif was talking about the Skulltrail systems that can do the 1/2 rez High quality in realtime. And he's right, it seems that currently only that mobo has the capacity to do the realtime 1/2 rez High in realtime.

Lucas
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ASSIMILATE, Inc.
LA, CA, USA

[Lucas Wilson]

Hi all,

Just fyi - I just moved about 15 posts from this thread to a new one called "Moving Threads." Why? Because those 15 posts had nothing to do with "SCRATCH Price." None of them were deleted, just moved to a more appropriately titled thread. Those of you that wish to continue discussing how and why threads are moved can do so there. I am closing this thread because the question of SCRATCH Price has been asked and answered multiple times. If anyone wishes to re-open the topic, please start a new thread.

Best,

Lucas
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ASSIMILATE, inc.
LA, CA, USA