Some Audio Testing Results

[Eddie]

Oh... This is sad.
I have been happily following red since god know when, and now I am afraid I have to cancel my orders because some guy messed-up the audio-department!?
And to all the people out there feeling superiour because they waste their time on teen-horror movies... well "CONGRATULATIONS"...

Yes, I am an EFP shooter and always will be... I don´t like to shoot adults playing pretend. I prefer real situations, and I expected RED to be able to make high-quality AUDIO-visual recordings of real situations.
All this fuzz about 24bit, without the possibility of making accurate adjustments is just plain silly.
Please make an EFP sound-module with two clean 16bit preamps with pots, limiters and a somewhat advanced softwaredriven agc. Otherwise this camera, seems like its made only for the fancy-pants, playing make-believe in there controlled studio-habitat

THIS F&%$/$&/ - sucks big time.....



All the best eddie

[tomcassetta]

Eddie,

Let's calm down a bit, ok? I think we share a little bit of the same disdain for the "teen horror" genre, which provides substantially less than ideal environments for audio recording (read: "not a controlled studio-habitat"). My point was not to flex a superiority muscle, but rather to say we should let this camera develop already. I have more respect for ENG technicians who can get a better product than a lot of studio engineers who bitch about fans and *this* mic or *that* signal chain.

Fact of the matter is, I just came off a film shoot where the producers ditched the RED because they wanted internal audio capabilities; however, we dumped the idea of running a tether to the camera and just went to a DAW. ENG and Cine are two different worlds, and I personally prefer the Cine workflow as an engineer. As an artist, it's more likely you ENG guys will pump out a better product, because - as you say so directly - your subjects aren't "playing pretend."

Didn't mean any disrespect, just have a lot of heart in my profession.

Cheers, mate.
-T

[Stuart English]

Originally Posted by digitalfx

I reported the DC offset to Red last week ...I was told they are working on it.

To clarify current status, the D.C offset issue on audio as been addressed in Build 14 v2.0.3.

[obin]

I was shocked not finding pots on the camera.... Even my
hvx has them!!!! What gives on this jim? We are pofessionals here this is not acceptable, I will not send my camera back over this but let's get real. This is not professional at all.

Love the camera.

[Shawn Booth]

I was just looking over the audio forum looking for place to post about this. I guess this is as good as any.

IMO...

Why not just record audio to a CD (like every film/commercial does) and sync it in post?

Sure, it's a little more work... But it's been done like this since the beginning. And it usually produces better results as well.
On a side note, most production audio is only good for dialogue at best... usually.

Just me?

[Shawn Booth]

Originally Posted by obin

I was shocked not finding pots on the camera.... Even my
hvx has them!!!! What gives on this jim? We are pofessionals here this is not acceptable,

The HVX is a prosumer camera. Doesn't compare.

Professionals record audio separately and sync in post. At least in the film world... But a lot who shoot F900 do the same as well. (In my experience.)

[Brook Willard]

Watch it, Eddie.

[Andrew]

Anybody got rid of hiss by not using line level?

I mean, if you use phantom power and mike level, will hiss go away?

[Joel Kaye]

Originally Posted by Andrew

Anybody got rid of hiss by not using line level?

I mean, if you use phantom power and mike level, will hiss go away?

If you use external phantom power and mic level you should get a very clean recording (dependent on the level of noise your gear is generating). At least that's my experience.

[Andrew]

Thanks! joelnet.
Mean time I am just subtracting Left channel from the Right