Build 17 issues? - Page 2

Damien Molineaux · 11-25-2008, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn Booth

The EVF does have odd behaviors from time to time doesn't it? Cable switching doesn't help, power cycling usually does but I've found the best solution for certain issues (whole camera system) is:

Acceptance.

And I move forward and keep shooting... while grumbling under my breath of course. Some problems are just there like visiting in-laws...

Some things I can live with, but yesterday the banding on my EVF was so severe, I consider it unacceptable, as does the DP I'm working with. We have 3.5 more weeks of shooting, he doesn't want to keep shooting like this.

I've reported this issue through Red support, not all the other ones, yet...

Cheers,
Damien

Damien Molineaux · 11-26-2008, 01:56 PM

Update,

After a reinstal last night : no change.

However this afternoon we were inside, and in a much warmer environment, banding seems to have nearly disappeared. I'll give updates as our shoot advances.

Cheers,
Damien

Markus Rave · 11-27-2008, 12:43 AM

B16 was stable as hell. 17 booty much loinger and in 50% hangs. I do not record audio nor has the feature been enabled. The wheel on the EVF does not switch anything anymore. Buttons work. Rest I had no issues. Thinking about going back to 16.

Barry Dycus · 11-28-2008, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markus Rave

B16 was stable as hell. 17 booty much loinger and in 50% hangs. I do not record audio nor has the feature been enabled. The wheel on the EVF does not switch anything anymore. Buttons work. Rest I had no issues. Thinking about going back to 16.

Has anyone gone back to 16? I start a week long shoot Monday and I am considering going back.

SF Geek · 11-29-2008, 10:46 AM

If you do go back to 16, use 17 first to check focus when you prep with your lenses and then go back.

martinnoweck · 12-01-2008, 12:51 PM

used b17 the first time on a commercial production and i had the feeling the boot time takes longer and i had to unplug everything (lcd, evf, drive) before booting.

several times the booting started, camera display just said "booting" and did not show the usual dates, infos, etc. - suddenly the fan became loud and camera seemed to restart.

@damien:
my evf stopped working from one day to another - but it was cold. i tried to warm it up, but didn't improve. did your warming up improve the picture?

regards,
martin

Mike Burke · 12-02-2008, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn Booth

Apparently, the solution is to not use playback when audio has been recorded. (If audio is not being recorded, make sure it's turned off.)

What?!
Are you serious?!!

Elyse · 12-03-2008, 09:14 AM

I got the "invalid public movie atom" too! I need to convert the r3d file to a QT because the proxies don't work.. but it quits out of Red Alert, Red Cine, and Red Rushes. I kind of NEED that 20 min. interview clip too. FCP editor.

was anyone else able to find a solution to this problem?

Michael Hastings · 12-03-2008, 09:35 AM

We had some serious hangs last week with build 17 on a rental. Several times took VERY long to reboot or just hung up. Haven't had a chance to test things myself but there were no issues with same user the week before on build 16.

Anybody know what this is? should we reinstall 17? Is there a new build coming soon?

SF Geek · 12-07-2008, 06:31 PM

I'm going back to 16. The "invalid public movie atom" corruption in 17 is too risky to have in a release build. Luckily it happened on a bad take, but if it was an important shot I can guarantee that that director and production company would not use the red after that. Boot hangs are annoying. Corrupt clips are unacceptable.

11-26-2008, 01:56 PM	#12
Damien Molineaux Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Geneva \| Switzerland Posts: 780	Update, After a reinstal last night : no change. However this afternoon we were inside, and in a much warmer environment, banding seems to have nearly disappeared. I'll give updates as our shoot advances. Cheers, Damien __________________ www.c-sideprod.ch camera rental and post services www.earthling-prod.net filmmaking around the world since 1999

11-27-2008, 12:43 AM	#13
Markus Rave Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 236	B16 was stable as hell. 17 booty much loinger and in 50% hangs. I do not record audio nor has the feature been enabled. The wheel on the EVF does not switch anything anymore. Buttons work. Rest I had no issues. Thinking about going back to 16. __________________ Markus Rave, Frankfurt, Germany www.markus-rave.de

12-03-2008, 09:35 AM	#19
Michael Hastings Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 2,323	Build 17 boot hangs We had some serious hangs last week with build 17 on a rental. Several times took VERY long to reboot or just hung up. Haven't had a chance to test things myself but there were no issues with same user the week before on build 16. Anybody know what this is? should we reinstall 17? Is there a new build coming soon? __________________ Save the Sharks __________________ Red #206 and Canon 7D. Canon EF and C/Y Zeiss lenses. 10mm Arri/Zeiss T2.1 PL Manfacturer of Underwater housing for REDONE - for sale or rent. 954.937.6600

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11-29-2008, 10:46 AM	#15
SF Geek Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 859	If you do go back to 16, use 17 first to check focus when you prep with your lenses and then go back.

12-01-2008, 12:51 PM	#16
martinnoweck Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 488	used b17 the first time on a commercial production and i had the feeling the boot time takes longer and i had to unplug everything (lcd, evf, drive) before booting. several times the booting started, camera display just said "booting" and did not show the usual dates, infos, etc. - suddenly the fan became loud and camera seemed to restart. @damien: my evf stopped working from one day to another - but it was cold. i tried to warm it up, but didn't improve. did your warming up improve the picture? regards, martin

12-03-2008, 09:14 AM	#18
Elyse Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Los Angeles / San Diego Posts: 23	I got the "invalid public movie atom" too! I need to convert the r3d file to a QT because the proxies don't work.. but it quits out of Red Alert, Red Cine, and Red Rushes. I kind of NEED that 20 min. interview clip too. FCP editor. was anyone else able to find a solution to this problem?

12-07-2008, 06:31 PM	#20
SF Geek Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 859	I'm going back to 16. The "invalid public movie atom" corruption in 17 is too risky to have in a release build. Luckily it happened on a bad take, but if it was an important shot I can guarantee that that director and production company would not use the red after that. Boot hangs are annoying. Corrupt clips are unacceptable.