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Jarred Land · 11-30-2009, 09:28 PM

it's not a bomb....

Chris Pickle · 11-30-2009, 09:28 PM

I agree about the issue about calling the EVF "Bomb". I'm very surprised that you would call it that. Anyone who has dealt with airlines and border stuff... ugg! Not trying to be a smart ass either. I love Red, but that is a bad idea. A year or two ago a French man was arrested for saying "explode' on a US plane. He was having a hard time getting his bag into the overhead compartment. A steward tried to help him and he said don't push too hard or the bag will explode. His translation was bad, as he meant that the seams would come apart. He was taken off the plane and charged with uttering a "threat". He lost in court.

And who can forget the guy wearing the transformer t-shirt with a picture of one of the transformers arms as a gun. They made him change his shirt before he was allowed on the plane.

As a Canadian, crossing the border, or flying on US airlines causes me great stress. I know Jerrod is a fellow Cannuk, but calling it "bomb" is not a great idea. (plus I don't get the entendre...what's the connection to bomb?)

Jamison Stark · 11-30-2009, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarred Land

it's not a bomb....

Exactly. It's the bomb. Totally different.

David Rasberry · 11-30-2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Osinski

I am only going to be able to afford one so I am going with interchangeable. All I can think about is that angi 12-240mm on a cliff filming surfing.

Also, I am done with electronic lenses. I am going all manual as soon as possible for as long as possible

I like the simplicity and feel of a good manual lens too. Makes for a more deliberate and thoughtful approach to your shots I think. I plan to use the 12-240 for nature photography mostly.

Michael Schmitt · 11-30-2009, 09:38 PM

It all looks great, Jarred! Looking forward to the day I can own one.

David Mullen ASC · 11-30-2009, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Joey Ciccoline

Would the 2/3 Scarlet with Mini Primes (or even fixed lens for that matter) have depth of field similar to 35mm with larger lenses, or will it be more along the lines of what conventional video cameras with similar sized sensors are capable of?

Because of the shorter focal lengths used on a 2/3" camera to match the field of view on a Super-35 camera, a 2.5X magnification factor, you have an effective increase of depth of field on a 2/3" camera as if you stopped-down by 2.5-stops compared to Super-35. In other words, shooting at f/2.8 on a 2/3" camera, once you match field of view, looks like an f/5.6-8.0 split on a Super-35 camera.

So how shallow you can make the depth of field on a 2/3" camera, just as with any camera, will be controlled by how wide-open your lens aperture goes. Let's just say that an f/1.5-stop on the Mini Prime is close to an f/1.4-2.0 split. Therefore that would look like shooting at f/4.0 on a Super-35 camera.

Dan Kanes · 11-30-2009, 09:43 PM

The Scarlet fixed 8X will in particular be judged against cameras like the 5D mark II when it comes to this sort of form-factor debate.

Obviously the FF35 Scarlet or the S35 scarlet... with a bunch of modules attached... will be a different situation calling for proper shoulder mount or handle mount or tripod or whatever you like...

but there's a large part of the smaller scarlet's market who are going to want to fling this thing around like a pimped up DSLR and I sincerely hope it can do that without feeling and looking too awkward.[/QUOTE]

I might get flamed for this, but you really shouldn't be handholding a motion camera without some sort of longitudinal suport system if you are expecting any sort of steadiness in your images. The Scarlets look like they have a high center of gravity, but you're going to want a top handle/side handle/ shoulder mount or some other kind of support to shoot video. Anyone who is using a 7D or 5DII now should know this - the film plane to center of balance ratio is weird on such a short (front to back) camera so handholding for video is not really an option (at least in my opinion).

Colin Sheldon · 11-30-2009, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Darren Orange

Jarred,

Can you please remove the "BOMB" from the side of the EVF. I don't want to even deal with the airports with something labeled "Bomb" on the side of it. AIRPORTS and the word "BOMB" don't mix. Sorry but it will certainly drive a lot of people nuts.

Guess I forgot to refresh my browser! I have to agree, it seems like an interesting choice in naming.

Michael Chase Gordon · 11-30-2009, 09:49 PM

Just curious.

paulherrin · 11-30-2009, 09:50 PM

77mm, i think i heard...

11-30-2009, 09:28 PM	#422
Chris Pickle Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 375	I agree about the issue about calling the EVF "Bomb". I'm very surprised that you would call it that. Anyone who has dealt with airlines and border stuff... ugg! Not trying to be a smart ass either. I love Red, but that is a bad idea. A year or two ago a French man was arrested for saying "explode' on a US plane. He was having a hard time getting his bag into the overhead compartment. A steward tried to help him and he said don't push too hard or the bag will explode. His translation was bad, as he meant that the seams would come apart. He was taken off the plane and charged with uttering a "threat". He lost in court. And who can forget the guy wearing the transformer t-shirt with a picture of one of the transformers arms as a gun. They made him change his shirt before he was allowed on the plane. As a Canadian, crossing the border, or flying on US airlines causes me great stress. I know Jerrod is a fellow Cannuk, but calling it "bomb" is not a great idea. (plus I don't get the entendre...what's the connection to bomb?) __________________ Chris Pickle http://www.savinggracethefilm.com/

11-30-2009, 09:49 PM	#429
Michael Chase Gordon Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 38	Anyone know the diameter of the Scarlet fixed lens, is it 82mm? Just curious.

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11-30-2009, 09:28 PM	#421
Jarred Land Fire Chief Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,498	it's not a bomb....

11-30-2009, 09:38 PM	#425
Michael Schmitt Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 131	It all looks great, Jarred! Looking forward to the day I can own one.

11-30-2009, 09:43 PM	#427
Dan Kanes Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 319	The Scarlet fixed 8X will in particular be judged against cameras like the 5D mark II when it comes to this sort of form-factor debate. Obviously the FF35 Scarlet or the S35 scarlet... with a bunch of modules attached... will be a different situation calling for proper shoulder mount or handle mount or tripod or whatever you like... but there's a large part of the smaller scarlet's market who are going to want to fling this thing around like a pimped up DSLR and I sincerely hope it can do that without feeling and looking too awkward.[/QUOTE] I might get flamed for this, but you really shouldn't be handholding a motion camera without some sort of longitudinal suport system if you are expecting any sort of steadiness in your images. The Scarlets look like they have a high center of gravity, but you're going to want a top handle/side handle/ shoulder mount or some other kind of support to shoot video. Anyone who is using a 7D or 5DII now should know this - the film plane to center of balance ratio is weird on such a short (front to back) camera so handholding for video is not really an option (at least in my opinion).

11-30-2009, 09:50 PM	#430
paulherrin Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 228	77mm, i think i heard...