Any ideas on how much the Red 4K monitor will cost ?

RayFrisby · 07-06-2007, 05:49 PM

Just wondering if anybody has an idea how much the Red 4K monitor will cost ?
I suppose it will have sdi imputs, and come in one or two sizes ??

Mark L. Pederson · 07-06-2007, 06:06 PM

well ....

IF I could have the following -

(a) decode 4K REDCODE from source via firewire or single BNC cable

(b) Dual Link HDSDI input for 444 HD 1080p

(c) HDMI input + GREAT upres from 1080p + 1080i

(d) 42 - 50 inch screen

(e) card slot for loading LUTs

(f) CF slot for playing REDCODE RAW

(g) option for SCOPES like CINE-TAL (add another say ... $7,500)

$10K would make me SMILE .... but I would pay $15,000 - $17,500

Unwounded · 07-06-2007, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RayFrisby

Just wondering if anybody has an idea how much the Red 4K monitor will cost ?
I suppose it will have sdi imputs, and come in one or two sizes ??

Have you actually heard they're making one for sure?
Also, what are most of you out there thinking about doing in terms of monitoring?

Gavin Greenwalt · 07-06-2007, 08:20 PM

They've announced that they will be making one. When... who knows.

I like all of the REDCode decoding built in ideas but 50" seems a bit large. ~36" would seem just about perfect to me.

Craig Schober · 07-07-2007, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by im.thatoneguy

They've announced that they will be making one. When... who knows.

I like all of the REDCode decoding built in ideas but 50" seems a bit large. ~36" would seem just about perfect to me.

they've announced they're making 4k displays but didn't say for what. could just introduce a 20" field monitor, 30" studio monitor, giant 60" viewing monitor or all in a full lineup. just like in their announced projectors and pocket cam, the devil's in the details...that we don't have yet.

Chris Kenny · 07-07-2007, 06:51 PM

A 20" (diagonal) 4K screen (16:9) would be about 10" high. Remember, a person with 20/20 vision has to sit within about 1.5 screen heights to get the full benefit of 4K. A 15" viewing distance would be a little uncomfortable.

A 40" screen would let you sit around 30" back, which seems a little more plausible. That's about how far back I sit from my screen. (Though my screen is only 24". A 4K screen is going to necessarily fill a much larger portion of your field of view than you're used to outside of a good movie theater, if you sit at the distance required to see all that resolution. I guess that's sort of the point.)

Jeff Kilgroe · 07-07-2007, 08:03 PM

IMO, for a desktop 4K monitor, 33"~36" would be the sweet spot. 36" would put the pixels at about 133 pixels/inch vs. the 100 pixels/inch in current 24" and 30" displays.

I sit with my eyes 48" from my 30" screen and everything looks just great to me at that distance, but often when viewing videos or editing, I'll find myself sitting about a foot closer to the 30" playback monitor because I like the video/imagery to fill my entire FOV. But any closer than 4ft and the individual pixels become too distracting for most work tasks. ...Then again, my vision is about 20/15 so my eyes are pretty good.

Gavin Greenwalt · 07-07-2007, 11:26 PM

That was my thinking exactly. I don't want to have to sit 6 feet back from my desk while working on 4k footage.

If I go above 36" it might as well be a projector so that I can do client sessions/grading. In which case I still want a 36" UI monitor for myself.

I Bloom · 07-08-2007, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by im.thatoneguy

That was my thinking exactly. I don't want to have to sit 6 feet back from my desk while working on 4k footage.

If I go above 36" it might as well be a projector so that I can do client sessions/grading. In which case I still want a 36" UI monitor for myself.

One thing I found interesting watching a DI grader at Laser Pacific was that he purposely messed up the image on his UI monitor. He didn't want it to look good, so that he could concentrate on the results as they came off his projector.

I think the RED monitor is going to be great, but for post it seems like you can't beat DLP for showing you exactly what you've got. For that reason I'm interested in the potential of their projector for really opening up the grading world.

IBloom

Mark L. Pederson · 07-08-2007, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ibloom

I think the RED monitor is going to be great, but for post it seems like you can't beat DLP for showing you exactly what you've got. For that reason I'm interested in the potential of their projector for really opening up the grading world.

IBloom

I agree - projector for grading - but me want 4K monitor on set!

07-06-2007, 05:49 PM	#1
RayFrisby Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 96	Any ideas on how much the Red 4K monitor will cost ? Just wondering if anybody has an idea how much the Red 4K monitor will cost ? I suppose it will have sdi imputs, and come in one or two sizes ??

07-06-2007, 06:06 PM	#2
Mark L. Pederson OffHollywood Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,017	well .... IF I could have the following - (a) decode 4K REDCODE from source via firewire or single BNC cable (b) Dual Link HDSDI input for 444 HD 1080p (c) HDMI input + GREAT upres from 1080p + 1080i (d) 42 - 50 inch screen (e) card slot for loading LUTs (f) CF slot for playing REDCODE RAW (g) option for SCOPES like CINE-TAL (add another say ... $7,500) $10K would make me SMILE .... but I would pay $15,000 - $17,500 __________________ Mark L. Pederson Offhollywood Get the BUZZ http://twitter.com/offhollywood

07-06-2007, 08:20 PM	#4
Gavin Greenwalt Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,583	They've announced that they will be making one. When... who knows. I like all of the REDCode decoding built in ideas but 50" seems a bit large. ~36" would seem just about perfect to me. __________________ Gavin Greenwalt \|\| im.thatoneguy im.thatoneguy[at]gmail.com

07-07-2007, 06:51 PM	#6
Chris Kenny Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 854	A 20" (diagonal) 4K screen (16:9) would be about 10" high. Remember, a person with 20/20 vision has to sit within about 1.5 screen heights to get the full benefit of 4K. A 15" viewing distance would be a little uncomfortable. A 40" screen would let you sit around 30" back, which seems a little more plausible. That's about how far back I sit from my screen. (Though my screen is only 24". A 4K screen is going to necessarily fill a much larger portion of your field of view than you're used to outside of a good movie theater, if you sit at the distance required to see all that resolution. I guess that's sort of the point.) __________________ You should follow me on Twitter here. Or read our new blog over here

07-07-2007, 08:03 PM	#7
Jeff Kilgroe Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,866	IMO, for a desktop 4K monitor, 33"~36" would be the sweet spot. 36" would put the pixels at about 133 pixels/inch vs. the 100 pixels/inch in current 24" and 30" displays. I sit with my eyes 48" from my 30" screen and everything looks just great to me at that distance, but often when viewing videos or editing, I'll find myself sitting about a foot closer to the 30" playback monitor because I like the video/imagery to fill my entire FOV. But any closer than 4ft and the individual pixels become too distracting for most work tasks. ...Then again, my vision is about 20/15 so my eyes are pretty good. __________________ - Jeff Kilgroe - Applied Visual Technologies, LLC \| RojoMojo I am not an employee or affiliate of RED Digital Cinema.

07-07-2007, 11:26 PM	#8
Gavin Greenwalt Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,583	That was my thinking exactly. I don't want to have to sit 6 feet back from my desk while working on 4k footage. If I go above 36" it might as well be a projector so that I can do client sessions/grading. In which case I still want a 36" UI monitor for myself. __________________ Gavin Greenwalt \|\| im.thatoneguy im.thatoneguy[at]gmail.com

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