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Jarred Land
04-13-2015, 12:02 AM
$950- Includes DC in, CTRL, SYNC, HDMI out, USB power out.

I/O module for handheld and other gimbal applications and includes adjustable HDMI port + USB power for wireless transmitter dongles and switchable for remote power on when power is detected.

http://www.redgrabs.com/up/1428974489.jpg



WEAPON JETPACK






Dimensions

Height: 116 mm (4.57")



Width: 90 mm (3.54")


Depth: 37 mm (1.46")


Weight
226.8 g (0.5 lbs)






Mounting
M4 mounting screws, captive, 4x


Brain Connections
Power delivery via W Rear pogo connector (13-pin)


Communication via W Rear I/O connector (4x40 pin)


User Connections
DC-IN (1B LEMO 6-pin socket)


HDMI output (Type A socket)


USB Power output (Type A socket) - 1.0A


SYNC (Genlock IN / Timecode IN / Sync IN) (00B LEMO 4-pin socket)


CTL (Tally OUT / RS-232 Rx and Tx) (00B LEMO 4-pin socket)


Remote ON/OFF Enable
2-position slider switch






Firmware Requirement
Compatible with all W FW versions







http://www.redgrabs.com/up/1428935556.jpg

Weapon CF + JETPACK + DJI RONIN-M :

http://www.redgrabs.com/up/1428911469.jpg

http://www.redgrabs.com/up/1428957063.jpg

http://www.redgrabs.com/up/1429003776.jpg

http://www.redgrabs.com/up/1428919940.jpg

http://www.redgrabs.com/up/1428984591.jpg

Raphael Varandas
04-13-2015, 12:03 AM
Hahahaha

brett ogden
04-13-2015, 12:03 AM
Sweet!

Nathan Garofalos
04-13-2015, 12:04 AM
Nice

Nathan Balli
04-13-2015, 12:04 AM
This is rad

Brandon J.F.
04-13-2015, 12:04 AM
Awesome

Patrick Grossien
04-13-2015, 12:04 AM
Here we go. boom 1 :) sweet!

Rick Augustus
04-13-2015, 12:04 AM
NICE.

luigivaltulini
04-13-2015, 12:04 AM
Wow baby;)

Aaron Kehoe
04-13-2015, 12:05 AM
Solid.

Prince Bagdasarian
04-13-2015, 12:05 AM
Hahhahahahahahhaha x 2! NICE! Now where's the weapon details...???

BigLu
04-13-2015, 12:05 AM
Flying

Jeffery Anderson
04-13-2015, 12:06 AM
cool

Tristan Houghton
04-13-2015, 12:06 AM
Here we go!!! Definitely a needed product!

Phil Holland
04-13-2015, 12:06 AM
Flying

Well put.

And tiny :)

Ketch Rossi
04-13-2015, 12:06 AM
NICE!!

Joachim Hoge
04-13-2015, 12:06 AM
Very nice. I don't own XL batteries, how long do they last?

Chris Luker
04-13-2015, 12:06 AM
Nuclear?

Patrick Grossien
04-13-2015, 12:07 AM
Looks like a lock for the HDMI! Sweet if it's so!

Patrick Grossien
04-13-2015, 12:08 AM
Very nice. I don't own XL batteries, how long do they last?

This is an I/O module. Not a REDVOLT module. power via lemo

James Falco
04-13-2015, 12:09 AM
Very nice, best part to me is the price.

Ces Peynetti
04-13-2015, 12:09 AM
Love the name

Peter Majtan
04-13-2015, 12:10 AM
Nice! This is going to work well with our "GI"... ;o)

:sifone: Peter

David Battistella
04-13-2015, 12:10 AM
And the fun begins! Putting another coffee on!

Peter Stepnoski
04-13-2015, 12:10 AM
Yep, rad.

Demetri Zuev
04-13-2015, 12:10 AM
So Ronin M can handle carbon Weapon. Can it fly the regular one though?

Kemalettin Sert
04-13-2015, 12:10 AM
Epic compatible?

Udistir Singh
04-13-2015, 12:12 AM
Nice!

Norbert Niederacher
04-13-2015, 12:13 AM
Wow. It looks like that Weapon is flying on a brand new DJI Ronin M... Weapon must be very light...

Joel Arvidsson
04-13-2015, 12:13 AM
DJI RONIN-M.....Seams i bought everything in the wrong order. ouch!

Keep em coming

Charles Bergquist
04-13-2015, 12:13 AM
What's the power source of it's for aerial / gimbal use?

Zeb B
04-13-2015, 12:15 AM
Can it ProRes? ;-)

Kemalettin Sert
04-13-2015, 12:16 AM
What's the power source of it's for aerial / gimbal use?
Lipo or dji batteries

Jean Wallez
04-13-2015, 12:16 AM
And the fun begins! Putting another coffee on!
my Italian coffee maker also whistles....

Joachim Hoge
04-13-2015, 12:16 AM
This is an I/O module. Not a REDVOLT module. power via lemo
Thanks. Looking at it on my phone on my way to work. Not the best way

Oliver_G
04-13-2015, 12:17 AM
Ohhhh.... :)

Jordan Buck
04-13-2015, 12:19 AM
Looks like you can run monitors off the side too

Freya
04-13-2015, 12:20 AM
Jet pack!!! Great name!

https://i1.ytimg.com/vi/GE5IAtxkSb0/hqdefault.jpg

More names like this and Dragon please! :)

Freya

Alexander Christ
04-13-2015, 12:21 AM
lightweight

Karel Šimůnek
04-13-2015, 12:23 AM
New smaller Ronin can handle the Weapon? That's absolutely nice and FANTASTIC!!! :thumbup:

camRAW
04-13-2015, 12:23 AM
Yes! Love the pictures. Red's Jetpack looks rad. Prepare for liftoff. :emote_head_explode:

Patrick Grossien
04-13-2015, 12:25 AM
Thanks. Looking at it on my phone on my way to work. Not the best way

Hehehehe. True - that's why I'm skipping work for a little while ;)

Patrick Grossien
04-13-2015, 12:26 AM
Wow. It looks like that Weapon is flying on a brand new DJI Ronin M... Weapon must be very light...

Maybe only for carbon weapon. But amazing either way!

Wil Wong
04-13-2015, 12:31 AM
Did you notice the Lemo adapter attached?! That's pretty cool.

Justen Nguyen
04-13-2015, 12:34 AM
Way to go guys, this is such a good idea!

Joel Arvidsson
04-13-2015, 12:35 AM
I wonder how they power the weapon while on the Ronin-M?

Also hoping to se a good module with nobs and buttons.

Dimitri Boschma
04-13-2015, 12:45 AM
Luv it!

Ivan Kovax
04-13-2015, 01:58 AM
This looks ultra useful! Perfect.

jacob.schwarz
04-13-2015, 02:00 AM
I hope they make a Jet Pack versions with SDI.

Jon Carr
04-13-2015, 11:23 AM
I hope they make a Jet Pack versions with SDI.
+100 I do a lot of movi stuff and my teradek is only SDI so adding a HDMI to SDI is not gonna be a fun idea.

Christopher-lee dos Santo
04-13-2015, 11:37 AM
Rocking the 50 F1.4 there. Super lens. ha ha

Mark Pugh
04-15-2015, 10:55 PM
I hope they make a Jet Pack versions with SDI.

I agree too. I'm another Movi/ Bolt owner.

alexjentz
04-16-2015, 09:37 AM
I hope they make a Jet Pack versions with SDI.

+1 and 1 or 2 x 2 Pin Lemo Power out for Remote Follow Focus Power and the Bolt

Antony Newman
04-20-2015, 12:02 AM
Is the Ronin-m the lightest / preferred option at this point? (say vs a MoVi M5 or the Lettuce Helix Magnesim)

The Weapon CF weighs 3.27 lb. What about the Jetpack? And the New 7" Weapon monitor?

What technology is the wireless transmission inside the Weapon? If it's 802.11ac ... any chance of extra 'CPU power' of the CF weapon to be used to send a low frequency 720p image for an iOS or other App to decode (or is this an Area that Red wants to steer clear from?). This would keep the inertia of the rotated weight to a minimum.

Is the Jetpack solution expecting the 7 inch Weapon monitor to be attached to the brain during gimbal use? Attached to the Ronin-m with wires?

I guess the Ronon can only supply 6w. Is there anything they can do to augment their battery offering so no additional lipo has the taped onto the moving mass of the camera (or is that is dumb suggestion?)

Is there any benefit in keeping a Steadicam Vest & arm to attach the whole Ronin-m + Weapon to ... or this not required? Or is this an outdated concept and people now use the EasyRig or Exoskeleton solutions?

AJ

Jarred Land
04-20-2015, 11:03 AM
added some specs to the first post weight etc.

Phil Holland
04-20-2015, 11:11 AM
added some specs to the first post weight etc.

Holy crap that is really, really lightweight then. So 0.5lbs for the JETPACK and lets say 3.27lbs for the Weapon CF (3.35lbs for MG). That's under 4lbs before you get the lens and DSMC Lens Mount involved. For some small lenses you'll be under 6lbs even. Still floating in the range of 6-9lbs with heavier glass, which really isn't a back breaker.

Everybody on gimbals just think about that. Hell, Steadicams too.

scott devitte
04-20-2015, 11:43 AM
With WCF, Jetpack and Leica m mount, practically any small, light rangefinder or dslr lens will be useable. Add the Helix jr., and you are at about 10lbs all in. Fantastic.

Antony Newman
04-20-2015, 12:31 PM
Thankyou Jarred.

AJ

Jon Carr
04-20-2015, 12:58 PM
Any chance on making a jetpack sdi version?

alexjentz
04-20-2015, 05:33 PM
Any chance on making a jetpack sdi version?

+1
would really be a hit for professional setups, including Lemo Power of course

Jeff McCoy
04-20-2015, 10:55 PM
Any chance on making a jetpack sdi version?

+1 that would be fantastic!!!

Also, am I safe to assume all modules with hdmi on weapon are 1080p? Any hope for a single 4k hdmi out?

Morning Glory
04-21-2015, 05:12 PM
+1 for SDI/MOVI & Bolt friendly version

Will Keir
04-23-2015, 02:39 AM
JETPACK! I had to look. "Hey, can you hand me my jetpack over there!"

Jarred, careful man. Boba Fett, will come for you.

Eric Haase
04-23-2015, 05:15 PM
SDI would be great. The bolt 2000 is a great transmitter and SDI.

Antony Newman
05-01-2015, 10:41 AM
RED,

Could you advise if the HDMI output of the JETPACK would be compatible with the following sort of device:
Aizbo Full Hd 1080p

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31w8264jiyL._SY355_.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/Aizbo-Wireless-Miracast-Ezmirror-Compatible/dp/B00Q2BYQME/ref=pd_sim_e_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=0R3PNPD5GHPKECNCA9QN


Is there an HDMI Dongle that RED has tested and is known to work?

(My interest is to use the Miracast wireless HDMI of a dongle to sent the RED GUI to the Epson BT-200 glasses for Gimbal control)

Thanks,
AJ

Stacey Spears
05-01-2015, 10:47 AM
Miracast has a lot of latency. We looked at using Miracast on the Xbox One as a way to send the video from the Xbox to the display. Did not even come close to being usable for video games. Obviously game playback is far more sensitive to latency than video, but if you are trying to pull focus, I think it would be pretty bad.

Jarred Land
05-01-2015, 11:15 AM
RED,

Could you advise if the HDMI output of the JETPACK would be compatible with the following sort of device:
Aizbo Full Hd 1080p



http://www.amazon.com/Aizbo-Wireless-Miracast-Ezmirror-Compatible/dp/B00Q2BYQME/ref=pd_sim_e_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=0R3PNPD5GHPKECNCA9QN


Is there an HDMI Dongle that RED has tested and is known to work?

(My interest is to use the Miracast wireless HDMI of a dongle to sent the RED GUI to the Epson BT-200 glasses for Gimbal control)

Thanks,
AJ

the range is also pretty short on this device... it was really made send video "the other way" . The Nyrius from amazon is probably a better option, and although the best Nyrius version is alot more expensive, it gives you almost zero latency and almost 10x the operating distance.

Robert Ruffo New
05-01-2015, 03:04 PM
the range is also pretty short on this device... it was really made send video "the other way" . The Nyrius from amazon is probably a better option, and although the best Nyrius version is alot more expensive, it gives you almost zero latency and almost 10x the operating distance.
Agreed. It's actually very usable on set. Many other brands are not.

Mark Andersen
05-01-2015, 03:16 PM
Does it out perform the Paralinx?

Patrick Grossien
05-02-2015, 01:42 AM
Has anybody tested the nyrius prime vs the nyrius pro?

Antony Newman
05-02-2015, 12:49 PM
Jarred : Thanks for the "other way" feedback :)

Stacey : Useful tip on Latency.


I've just shot an email to Silicon Micro Displays http://www.siliconmicrodisplay.com/st1080.html to see if the ST1080 is still available.

Specs:
+) 1920 x 1080 in each eye - projected on a virtual 100" screen 10ft in front of you (easy to Focus)
+) HDMI input (straight from the Jetpack ... wired but almost no additional latency)
+) Goggles have a 10% transparency (so you have awareness of your surroundings)
+) They also sell a super thin HDMI cable ... which (hoping) should be able to poke out the back of a Gimbal?
+) Power requirements (7W) can be carried from a source in a backpack.

Thoughts on minimal Gimbal setup
+) No Screen to have to carry on the rig - so less weight
+) Glasses quoted contrast of 1200:1 ... easier to frame and focus than a 7" touch?
+) Better posture (no need to crane your head at a small screen on the handlebars)

Any downsides I am missing (other than looking like a space-age fashion victim?)


AJ

Stacey Spears
05-02-2015, 01:06 PM
Thoughts on minimal Gimbal setup
+) No Screen to have to carry on the rig - so less weight

I really like that idea. I was hoping the Zeiss goggles would have worked better. As soon as I get a chance, I will test with Hololens. I wonder if there is useful filmmaking type app that could be developed for it. You can probably overlay some useful gimbal and camera data in realtime.

Michael Blieden
05-02-2015, 02:08 PM
I'm super interested in this glasses setup as well. Please post if they get back to you.

PatrickFaith
05-02-2015, 08:29 PM
Does it out perform the Paralinx?
I have a movi 15 for use with paralinx sdi connection. I've looked at the SDI to hdmi converters, but the high quality ones are all fairly big and have power requirements.

I think a lot of people have commented on wanting the SDI and I use master primes when i shoot with the m15 so don't have a lot of clearence. Perhaps a carbon fiber jet pack that is SDI, maybe twice the price, but designed more for people shooting with cinema lenses & higher end transmitters?

Vithya Sharma
05-02-2015, 09:24 PM
Supper....

Elsie N
05-03-2015, 07:16 AM
Jarred : Thanks for the "other way" feedback :)

Stacey : Useful tip on Latency.


I've just shot an email to Silicon Micro Displays http://www.siliconmicrodisplay.com/st1080.html to see if the ST1080 is still available.

Specs:
+) 1920 x 1080 in each eye - projected on a virtual 100" screen 10ft in front of you (easy to Focus)
+) HDMI input (straight from the Jetpack ... wired but almost no additional latency)
+) Goggles have a 10% transparency (so you have awareness of your surroundings)
+) They also sell a super thin HDMI cable ... which (hoping) should be able to poke out the back of a Gimbal?
+) Power requirements (7W) can be carried from a source in a backpack.

Thoughts on minimal Gimbal setup
+) No Screen to have to carry on the rig - so less weight
+) Glasses quoted contrast of 1200:1 ... easier to frame and focus than a 7" touch?
+) Better posture (no need to crane your head at a small screen on the handlebars)

Any downsides I am missing (other than looking like a space-age fashion victim?)


AJ

This could be the new Producer/Director monitor... actually seeing what the camera sees. Good if more than one set of glasses could view everything in real-time... assuming sending out a wireless signal via Nyrius or Pairalinx.

Noel Cordero
10-05-2015, 09:05 PM
SICK!!

Jarek Zabczynski
12-08-2015, 05:19 PM
Looks like the standard DSMC˛ Base Expander is lighter…not by much. If you have one of those, is there still a benefit to this? Not knockin, just wonderin.

Samir Patel
12-08-2015, 05:36 PM
Looks like the standard DSMC˛ Base Expander is lighter…not by much. If you have one of those, is there still a benefit to this? Not knockin, just wonderin.

besides being about half price? haha

Jarek Zabczynski
12-08-2015, 05:57 PM
besides being about half price? haha

Yeah, but if you already get the Base Expanded in your package?

alexjentz
12-08-2015, 05:57 PM
+1 one


I have a movi 15 for use with paralinx sdi connection. I've looked at the SDI to hdmi converters, but the high quality ones are all fairly big and have power requirements.

I think a lot of people have commented on wanting the SDI and I use master primes when i shoot with the m15 so don't have a lot of clearence. Perhaps a carbon fiber jet pack that is SDI, maybe twice the price, but designed more for people shooting with cinema lenses & higher end transmitters?

Samir Patel
12-08-2015, 05:59 PM
Yeah, but if you already get the Base Expanded in your package?

ah I see. I went with only the brain pre-order. I have a feeling we will see some new modules and third party stuff between now and march.

Mark Andersen
02-11-2016, 07:55 AM
Can the Jet Pack power Lemo port be rotated without damaging it? My right angled Helix power cable won't plug in because the port is 180 degrees off. Thoughts?

Mark Andersen
02-11-2016, 08:04 AM
I'm replying to my own question, I just cracked open the Jet Pack and was successful in rotating the Lemo port to be compatible with the Helix, :wink5:

Jon Carr
02-11-2016, 08:20 AM
Any word on the hd-Sdi version?

alexjentz
02-11-2016, 08:59 AM
I'm replying to my own question, I just cracked open the Jet Pack and was successful in rotating the Lemo port to be compatible with the Helix, :wink5:



thats great to know because i was wondering the same for the Lemo 2 PIN 0B AUX POWER Ports on the Quickplate Module and the ne ET Weapon V Lock back.

so i guess there might be a chance that works there too ;)

Mark Andersen
02-14-2016, 03:32 PM
I'm not trying to promote the idea of "cracking open" anything. I made it work with the jet pack, it's pretty easy in that case but in every situation you must be careful not to damage wires, or stretch them etc.

Paul Kalbach
02-16-2016, 05:41 PM
I thought the whole concept for the Jetpack was that it's a lightweight solution for gimbal/drone use. However, I see in the specs that it weighs 0.5 lbs; compared to the DSMC2 Base Expander which weighs 0.45 lbs and has more I/O. With this in mind, I don't see why anyone would want a Jetpack over a Base Expander (other than cost)...or am I missing something here?

Matthew Quinn
02-16-2016, 05:46 PM
No Paul other than the jetpack is half the cost

Spencer Weaver
02-16-2016, 08:05 PM
I thought the whole concept for the Jetpack was that it's a lightweight solution for gimbal/drone use. However, I see in the specs that it weighs 0.5 lbs; compared to the DSMC2 Base Expander which weighs 0.45 lbs and has more I/O. With this in mind, I don't see why anyone would want a Jetpack over a Base Expander (other than cost)...or am I missing something here?
Well, another difference is that the Jetpack's outputs go straight down instead of protruding horizontally. This can be an advantage when shooting hand-held as well as when mounted to a Drone or Gimbal. For instance... in the hand-held setup with a battery belt clip and the downward outputs you can tether the camera and rest it close to your body without accidentally bumping loose the HDMI or Power connection.

These are big enough advantages to me that I purchased both a Jet back and the v-mount base expander. We will see how everything plays out in practice I guess and if it's as big of an advantage as I think.

Paul Kalbach
02-17-2016, 12:49 AM
Well, another difference is that the Jetpack's outputs go straight down instead of protruding horizontally. This can be an advantage when shooting hand-held as well as when mounted to a Drone or Gimbal. For instance... in the hand-held setup with a battery belt clip and the downward outputs you can tether the camera and rest it close to your body without accidentally bumping loose the HDMI or Power connection.

These are big enough advantages to me that I purchased both a Jet back and the v-mount base expander. We will see how everything plays out in practice I guess and if it's as big of an advantage as I think.

You may have a point there. I've never been a fan of battery belts though....

Spencer Weaver
02-17-2016, 10:36 AM
You may have a point there. I've never been a fan of battery belts though....
I'm not a fan of them either... however when I shoot event coverage I almost always shoot handheld. So, lately, I've been thinking a lot more about ergonomics and longevity. I've had plenty a sore back from holding the camera rig out in front of me for a full day shoot. So, I'm willing to give the belt pack a try :)

Jens Jakob Thorsen
02-17-2016, 11:49 PM
RED,

Could you advise if the HDMI output of the JETPACK would be compatible with the following sort of device:
Aizbo Full Hd 1080p

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31w8264jiyL._SY355_.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/Aizbo-Wireless-Miracast-Ezmirror-Compatible/dp/B00Q2BYQME/ref=pd_sim_e_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=0R3PNPD5GHPKECNCA9QN


Is there an HDMI Dongle that RED has tested and is known to work?

(My interest is to use the Miracast wireless HDMI of a dongle to sent the RED GUI to the Epson BT-200 glasses for Gimbal control)

Thanks,
AJ

Hahaha , you will be so motion sick.