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Jarred Land
04-13-2015, 01:19 AM
WEAPON Touch 7" LCD - $2950

Attaches directly to Weapon monitor port on WEAPON brains ( cableless )


http://www.redgrabs.com/up/1429008467.jpg

http://www.redgrabs.com/up/1428995256.jpg

Weapon LEMO adaptors A and B - $195 each

Mounts directly to WEAPON brain. In conjunction with WEAPON Lemo Adaptor B, will allow use of Lemo cables to mount W LCD/EVF to locations where not mounted directly to WEAPON brain.

Use a single Lemo Adaptor A to connect existing 7" and 5" LCD or EVFs to WEAPON



http://www.redgrabs.com/up/1428981200.jpg

http://www.redgrabs.com/up/1429009402.jpg

luigivaltulini
04-13-2015, 01:19 AM
LEMO ;) nice Adaptors;)

Raphael Varandas
04-13-2015, 01:19 AM
O boy

Oliver_G
04-13-2015, 01:20 AM
:0 Awesome... I need more!!!!

Ketch Rossi
04-13-2015, 01:20 AM
Ha ha, my 7" Touch has been used 2 TIMEs... But I like this new CABLE_LESS design when on camera... I think I'll switch... :)

Love the module too.

Oh, and thanks for keeping the same price too... :)

Chris Luker
04-13-2015, 01:20 AM
Now THAT I can use!

David Battistella
04-13-2015, 01:21 AM
Like the location of the port!

Nick Fury
04-13-2015, 01:21 AM
Liking the adaptor-a lot.

Thank you very much

Fury

Reuben Evans
04-13-2015, 01:21 AM
I like that the Lemo jack will be closer to the back of the camera.

Tom Gleeson
04-13-2015, 01:22 AM
Would love some basic specs like screen resolution?

David Battistella
04-13-2015, 01:22 AM
Brain is tiny! Seems smaller than epic!

Jordan Buck
04-13-2015, 01:23 AM
Liking the option of both the side and the top for this. Can get creative with monitor mounting for sure.

Phil Holland
04-13-2015, 01:23 AM
Love the Carbon Fiber design notes here on that bolt on.

Bolt it down, add a cable, do whatever you want. Also that LEMO Adapter works with existing displays.

Rick Augustus
04-13-2015, 01:24 AM
NAB is going to be so GREAT tomorrow. I truly can't sleep from anticipation. LOL

Ces Peynetti
04-13-2015, 01:24 AM
I'm really digging the side adaptor option.

Nick Fury
04-13-2015, 01:25 AM
Love the Carbon Fiber design notes here on that bolt on.

Bolt it down, add a cable, do whatever you want. Also that LEMO Adapter works with existing displays.

So the 9", although not listed has no special limitation, with the new adaptor?

Thank you very much

Fury

Owen Rennie
04-13-2015, 01:26 AM
Like

Zeb B
04-13-2015, 01:28 AM
Looks like we're on the 15 minute announcement drip medication dose

Justen Nguyen
04-13-2015, 01:30 AM
definitely will help clean up the weapon form factor. I should really just read this all in the morning. Might oversleep and miss my flight to NAB haha

camRAW
04-13-2015, 01:30 AM
Sleek design. Now I'm willing to trade up the five.

Antoine MARTEAU
04-13-2015, 01:33 AM
Cableless AND cable operation, very sweet!! :)

paul engstrom
04-13-2015, 01:34 AM
Looks swappable--for example, can go forward or backward on the top moUnited position. I quite like it. And two built in ports is great. Sleek.

Mike Nagel
04-13-2015, 01:36 AM
Would love some basic specs like screen resolution?

+ 1

Phil Holland
04-13-2015, 01:38 AM
So the 9", although not listed has no special limitation, with the new adaptor?

Thank you very much

Fury

As far as I know, and Jarred mentioned it before, the LEMO Adapter allows for previous displays to be used.

Alex Kiritz
04-13-2015, 01:39 AM
Would love some basic specs like screen resolution?

http://www.red.com/store/products/red-touch-7-lcd

Phil Holland
04-13-2015, 01:39 AM
Would love some basic specs like screen resolution?

Fairly confident this is the same display tech as the current 7.0" LCD Touch as that's the newest screen.

Nick Fury
04-13-2015, 01:39 AM
As far as I know, and Jarred mentioned it before, the LEMO Adapter allows for previous displays to be used.


As it should be...Not at all obsolete.

Thank you very much

Fury

Cameron Currier
04-13-2015, 01:40 AM
Would love some basic specs like screen resolution?

I'm guessing it's the same as the existing 7"
http://www.red.com/store/products/red-touch-7-lcd

Daniel Reed
04-13-2015, 01:45 AM
WEAPON Touch 7" LCD - $2950

Attaches directly to Weapon monitor port on WEAPON brains ( cableless )


Looking forward to the monitor specs!

Hopefully, someone makes a solid sunhood for it.

Patrick Grossien
04-13-2015, 01:45 AM
I like it, but I'll add myself to the list of Mark L. Pederson's request!

Please give us an option of the same display without the hinge. It should make it cheaper and more lightweight when connected to a noga arm!


Yeah - the image side by side with 5" is like night and day. No banding, better color and WAY sharper.

I'm just going to keep begging Jarred to please make ANOTHER VERSION without the hinge - which adds considerably to the cost. TV & Features always put it on a NOGA arm and the hinge is just in the way.

Just want LEMO receptacle on the bottom or back - and a 1/4-20 or 3/8-16 on bottom and/or back.

Same panel, same board - just new enclosure and the LEMO without the hinge. LOTS of high end folks would be very happy.

Please .....:)

Patrick Grossien
04-13-2015, 01:48 AM
As far as I know, and Jarred mentioned it before, the LEMO Adapter allows for previous displays to be used.

It's even stated in the first post in this thread.
Though he omitted the 9" - I'll assume by accident?!



Weapon LEMO adaptors A and B - $195 each

...
Use a single Lemo Adaptor A to connect existing 7" and 5" LCD or EVFs to WEAPON

http://www.redgrabs.com/up/1428981200.jpg

Nathan L Collett
04-13-2015, 01:51 AM
I like that the Lemo jack will be closer to the back of the camera.
Yes. I think it will make it less prone to breakage. Good stuff.

Nick Fury
04-13-2015, 01:53 AM
It's even stated in the first post in this thread.
Though he omitted the 9" - I'll assume by accident?!

Yep, I do sometimes have a penchant for precision, especially at this hour and owning a 9 incher... I would really feel sad if it were rendered impotent as a weapon piece.

Thank you very much

Fury

Ivan Kovax
04-13-2015, 01:54 AM
By way of practicality, how does one actually carry the camera in this cableless mode?

There doesn't seem to be any place to mount the top handle, and now that the sidhandle is history... ?

Bob Gundu
04-13-2015, 01:57 AM
By way of practicality, how does one actually carry the camera in this cableless mode?

There doesn't seem to be any place to mount the top handle, and now that the sidhandle is history... ?

There is a new handle with start stop button.

Alex Kiritz
04-13-2015, 01:58 AM
By way of practicality, how does one actually carry the camera in this cableless mode?

There doesn't seem to be any place to mount the top handle, and now that the sidhandle is history... ?

There are extra holes in this camera.

https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/11060030_10152834377545415_8584811180270017133_o.j pg

Ivan Kovax
04-13-2015, 01:59 AM
Oh I see. Thanks for that!

Alex Boothby
04-13-2015, 09:04 AM
Is it possible to mount the LCD directly to the SIDE Pogo connectors? That would be better placement for easyrig operating.

Alex Boothby
04-13-2015, 09:08 AM
Hoping we can change the orientation of this Lemo connector. Feels like a poke in the eye waiting to happen.

Kemalettin Sert
04-13-2015, 09:25 AM
Where is the new EVF :) i want it so much

Jarek Zabczynski
04-13-2015, 09:34 AM
It's a cool idea, but I doubt I will ever use it like this. I would have just preferred 2x lemo ports.

Ryan Sheets
04-13-2015, 11:31 AM
I am about to buy an LCD for my epic...can I purchase this and use it with a normal epic dragon? Figured if I have to buy an LCD it would be worth it to buy something newer that will hold value longer.

Jens Jakob Thorsen
04-14-2015, 06:51 AM
I like it, but I'll add myself to the list of Mark L. Pederson's request!

Please give us an option of the same display without the hinge. It should make it cheaper and more lightweight when connected to a noga arm!

+1! I have never seen it used professionally boltet to the camera.

Jordan Buck
04-14-2015, 07:11 AM
I am about to buy an LCD for my epic...can I purchase this and use it with a normal epic dragon? Figured if I have to buy an LCD it would be worth it to buy something newer that will hold value longer.

I can't see why if you have the adaptor the monitor end, you couldn't? theoretically.

ignition
04-15-2015, 06:44 AM
Appreciate the flexibility. And legacy 'compatibility' to existing Dragon EVF/LCD combinations through the A adapter (kindly included in the CF Upgrade package). But want to echo some of the sympathies herein - that direct to brain EVF/LCD port seems highly restricted to this new 7" LCD mounted in a limited position directly on the camera brain. Is this particular port/config also opened to the newly announced 3rd party innovation racquet?? :)

ignition
04-15-2015, 06:50 AM
+1! I have never seen it used professionally boltet to the camera.

Ideal in limited run and gun scenarios IMO. For the most part, LCD/EVF remains an issue of convenient placement through NATO arms etc. and EVF cabling which is catered for in Weapon. The catered-for direct to brain 7" mount configuration precipitated by RED in this situation is welcomed, but likely a fringe rather than typical production scenario for most of us. At least, it seems that on the surface. And yet the forethought to flexibility herein, both direct-mount and adapter-driven traditional LEMO, is welcomed in terms of monitoring flexibility.

jacob.schwarz
04-20-2015, 09:03 PM
Specing out my new weapon setup and it would be great to be able to upgrad in my 7" for the new Weapon 7" Possible? Is it a simple process or more complex.

Phil Holland
04-20-2015, 09:52 PM
Specing out my new weapon setup and it would be great to be able to upgrad in my 7" for the new Weapon 7" Possible? Is it a simple process or more complex.

Likely not going to happen. A bit more complex and a bit difficult to do.

I'm keeping my "OG" 7.0" and will be using the new 7.0" as well.

jacob.schwarz
04-20-2015, 10:39 PM
Likely not going to happen. A bit more complex and a bit difficult to do.

I'm keeping my "OG" 7.0" and will be using the new 7.0" as well.


Thanks for the info Phil, thats what i figured but its always good to ask.

Will Wernick
04-21-2015, 11:53 AM
Just as a plus 1 to what has already been said. I would also love a touch screen without the adapters and the hinge. It really causes headaches.

Matt Uhry
04-22-2015, 10:16 AM
Just was thinking it would be nice to have NATO rail on the top part of the Lemo A Adapter, the camera is small and we're going to still need to bolt a lot of stuff on it. Gonna get crowded.

Matt Uhry
www.mattuhry.com

Michael Lindsay
04-22-2015, 05:41 PM
Just was thinking it would be nice to have NATO rail on the top part of the Lemo A Adapter, the camera is small and we're going to still need to bolt a lot of stuff on it. Gonna get crowded.

Matt Uhry
www.mattuhry.com

+1

I am worried about this...

I need to be able to get a 19mm bar on the dumb side asap
A handle that goes over the pl mount so I can balance on a easy rig ....and I am worried this is a problem with the Lemo adapter thing.
Also the VF lemo needs to point towards the lens?
And I am always sticking other stuff on and I can't see where. We need 3rd party guys to step up in a really smart way rather than just selling us metal..

Nick Morrison
04-22-2015, 10:39 PM
Can the Weapon 7" be used on Dragon? With a Lemo?

M. Lalande
07-23-2015, 04:32 AM
Can the Weapon 7" be used on Dragon? With a Lemo?

I'd like to know that as well!

Jarred Land
07-23-2015, 11:20 AM
Can the Weapon 7" be used on Dragon? With a Lemo?

Yes indeed. ( with the Lemo adapter of course )

jacob.schwarz
07-26-2015, 07:45 AM
any chance you guys would make a high-bright version of the 7"?

Nick Morrison
07-26-2015, 10:02 AM
Can a current 7" be traded in for the new Weapon 7"?

Stacey Spears
07-26-2015, 12:04 PM
Will the new 7" LCDs be shipping around the same time as Weapon?

M. Lalande
07-27-2015, 08:52 AM
Yes indeed. ( with the Lemo adapter of course )

Thanks for the reply! In that case, I suggest you indicate that on the red store. Right now, the lemo adaptor appears to be compatible with the weapon only.

Jake Wilganowski
07-27-2015, 09:30 AM
Jarred, is the Weapon 7" touch literally the exact same panel as the red 7" touch, just wondering if anything is different, color, sharpness etc....

Russ Fill
08-03-2015, 12:51 AM
any chance you guys would make a high-bright version of the 7"?
+1000

Jon Nash
08-23-2015, 02:24 PM
Is there a shipping date on this yet? I'm in the market for a 7" and also waiting on a weapon upgrade . I'd hate to buy the standard 7" only to realise I could have bought the weapon 7" a week or so later ? Any clues would be helpful ;-)

Will Keir
08-23-2015, 11:06 PM
+1 here


any chance you guys would make a high-bright version of the 7"?

Mark Andersen
02-19-2016, 08:24 PM
What's the latest on the new monitors? Any shipping estimates yet?

jordan levy
02-19-2016, 08:44 PM
What's the latest on the new monitors? Any shipping estimates yet?
i think i saw somewhere that they were 2-3 weeks out? but the new cheaper one was available now.

ignition
02-20-2016, 05:16 AM
Noting the new AL option alongside the fiber version of the 7.0".. the description in the RED store refers the AL as 'robust' and the woven CF as 'ultra light weight' yet in the specs sheet it simply lists one weight (508g). Can we get some clarity on whether there is any weight benefit from going for the WF? Because apart from a bit of WF decal for a nice blend with our Fiber weapon I'm a bit hard pressed to cough up the extra $200 for the WF if there's no weight benefit...

Jake Roper
02-20-2016, 03:49 PM
Can we get some clarity on whether there is any weight benefit from going for the WF? Because apart from a bit of WF decal for a nice blend with our Fiber weapon I'm a bit hard pressed to cough up the extra $200 for the WF if there's no weight benefit...

Would also love to know the answer to this.

Bob Gundu
02-20-2016, 03:50 PM
Would also love to know the answer to this.

My guess is that it will be negligible.

Mark L. Pederson
02-22-2016, 05:39 AM
Dear RED ....


PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make a 7" HD touchscreen monitor without the hinge for the folks making films and TV shows that ALWAYS mount the on-board on an arm.

As I have said before - the mechanical parts of the hinge are significant in cost and weight. What we all really want is what you did with the old 7" back in the day.

Rant over. Temporarily. I'll be back.

Bérenger Brillante
02-22-2016, 06:35 AM
I can't only agree with you Mark.

Jens Jakob Thorsen
02-22-2016, 10:46 AM
Dear RED ....


PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make a 7" HD touchscreen monitor without the hinge for the folks making films and TV shows that ALWAYS mount the on-board on an arm.

As I have said before - the mechanical parts of the hinge are significant in cost and weight. What we all really want is what you did with the old 7" back in the day.

Rant over. Temporarily. I'll be back.

THIS!

Blair S. Paulsen
02-22-2016, 11:08 AM
Sorry to pile on, but... the hinge/swivel base on the LCDs has caused more issues than it has solved in my world. How about a "naked" panel with a combo hinge/swivel/cable-less connection piece as an option for some situations. As others have noted, in a most other configurations, the hinge is a liability.

Cheers - #19

Mark L. Pederson
02-22-2016, 11:38 AM
Sorry to pile on, but... the hinge/swivel base on the LCDs has caused more issues than it has solved in my world. How about a "naked" panel with a combo hinge/swivel/cable-less connection piece as an option for some situations. As others have noted, in a most other configurations, the hinge is a liability.

Cheers - #19

I would not really call it a "liability" - it just for a different style of camera operation. Sometimes, for fashion and run & gun stuff - it works for some of our customers. But not one single feature film or episodic TV show I have ever encountered uses the hinge on the monitor.

A. Clint Litton
02-22-2016, 11:44 AM
Totally agree...I really do miss my old 7" Red LCD from the R1 days...saw a battle tested one in the store and was tempted, but resolution/brightness/lack of touch capability kept me at bay. Would love what Mark is suggesting...and Blair's additional mounting bracket idea is a good one. Gives everyone the best of both worlds, minus the cableless design of the current DSMC² monitors. SmallHD introduced a similar design for their 502 monitors, and it seems to make a lot of sense, while offering more flexibility in mounting options.

jordan levy
02-22-2016, 11:49 AM
thats why for some shooters, like me, the 7 inch doesnt make sense at all. i want the smallest thing possible on the camera for camera control and i would be using a third party type monitor or evf for actual operating. it has always been an evf or a tv logic for me, but now looking at smallhd, but i know they are having a lot of dead pixel issues plus image doesnt seem to be a great interpretation of what you are filming.

Michael Lindsay
02-22-2016, 05:49 PM
Sorry to pile on, but... the hinge/swivel base on the LCDs has caused more issues than it has solved in my world. How about a "naked" panel with a combo hinge/swivel/cable-less connection piece as an option for some situations. As others have noted, in a most other configurations, the hinge is a liability.

Cheers - #19

+1 with Lemo on back and 3/8 on the bottom, back and top

Jonathan Stevenson
02-22-2016, 08:18 PM
+1 with Lemo on back and 3/8 on the bottom, back and top

+1!

Mark Pedersen
02-22-2016, 11:41 PM
thats why for some shooters, like me, the 7 inch doesnt make sense at all. i want the smallest thing possible on the camera for camera control and i would be using a third party type monitor or evf for actual operating. it has always been an evf or a tv logic for me, but now looking at smallhd, but i know they are having a lot of dead pixel issues plus image doesnt seem to be a great interpretation of what you are filming.

Share your perspective. Today I got two new (regular) RED 7" displays because I don't like the Weapon version with yet another thingy to add to the bottom of the monitor to put it any place OTHER than the top of the camera which makes no sense unless you're doing low mode hand held...

Put it up with our 5" touch and a Small HD 702 high bright. My eye kept going to the high bright—not that it was particularly brighter in the room, but because of the inherent contrast ratio, ability to focus, better picture quality overall, etc. The 5" was even brighter, but it was a little harder to focus than the 7" or 702. I found that the 7" doesn't have enough punch or Brightness/contrast. I maxed it out and it still seem dull compared to the 702, and our field monitors (panasonic 17" and sony 17" OLED).

As an "all in one" solution for a camera operator with no AC, the 7" is nice.

But the best of all worlds is to use the 5" or Switchblade for camera control and use the new EVF or 702 for operating.

Jordan you really should check out the 702. A great monitor and the features and software controls are awesome—way better than TVLogic.

M

Jarred Land
02-22-2016, 11:49 PM
Noting the new AL option alongside the fiber version of the 7.0".. the description in the RED store refers the AL as 'robust' and the woven CF as 'ultra light weight' yet in the specs sheet it simply lists one weight (508g). Can we get some clarity on whether there is any weight benefit from going for the WF? Because apart from a bit of WF decal for a nice blend with our Fiber weapon I'm a bit hard pressed to cough up the extra $200 for the WF if there's no weight benefit...

The weight difference is negligible . We made the Aluminum back version because we just can't make the carbon ones fast enough to keep up with the demand.

Fergus Cahill
02-23-2016, 12:09 AM
So onboard with the idea of the R1 style monitor but it touch!

ignition
02-23-2016, 03:42 AM
Tx for clarity Jarred. I do see the store page is updated now and there's 48g difference ... for all intents and purposes assuming this is practically identical to the existing 7.0" touch granted new housing options and the POGO DSMC2 connector as standard

Mark Andersen
02-23-2016, 05:03 PM
I just got a notice that my 7" CF monitor shipped today, so they are getting out. I ordered back in Aug. I believe so it's not likely that they are really close to being caught up.

Jake Roper
02-23-2016, 05:59 PM
Switched my order from CF to an AL monitor yesterday and got the AL one today. Love it! $200 saved plus no wait was a no brainer for my needs.

brian hanson
04-04-2016, 05:13 PM
Is there a Hoodman or cover for the 7" LCD yet?

Daniel Kelly Brown
04-04-2016, 09:19 PM
Is there a Hoodman or cover for the 7" LCD yet?

http://woodencamera.com/RED/RED-Weapon-Raven-Accessory-Kits/LCD-Sun-Shade-6-to-7-Inch.html

brian hanson
04-05-2016, 09:44 PM
Just ordered one, thanks!

Alex Boothby
01-07-2017, 02:04 PM
http://www.artbyphil.com/temp/reduser/phfx_REDRAVENFirstLook.jpg
(http://www.artbyphil.com/temp/reduser/phfx_REDRAVENFirstLook.jpg).


Can anyone confirm if it is possible to mount the DSMC2 Red Touch 7.0" on the side Pogo connectors, like in Phil's photo above? This seems like a much better place to mount an LCD than the top. If side mounting works, what are the disadvantages to mounting it here? Are there clearance issues? Limited lilt angles?

Thanks!

Phil Holland
01-07-2017, 02:58 PM
Can anyone confirm if it is possible to mount the DSMC2 Red Touch 7.0" on the side Pogo connectors, like in Phil's photo above? This seems like a much better place to mount an LCD than the top. If side mounting works, what are the disadvantages to mounting it here? Are there clearance issues? Limited lilt angles?

Thanks!

Well I can confirm it :)

Yes you can't tilt forwards or backwards with the 7.0" in this possition, but you can rotate it and level it essentially. If you find yourself operating on the smart side of the camera a lot it works well.

Chad Lancaster
01-07-2017, 04:26 PM
Its a great position to mount it and have the screen on the side of the camera if your shooting time-lapse, that way the screen doesn't act like a sail and try and shake your camera.

Alex Boothby
01-08-2017, 08:37 AM
Well I can confirm it :)

Yes you can't tilt forwards or backwards with the 7.0" in this possition, but you can rotate it and level it essentially. If you find yourself operating on the smart side of the camera a lot it works well.

Thanks Phil and Chad! Much appreciated. You wouldn't happen to have any other pics of this setup, would you? Phil's pic above was the only image I could find online.

It looks like LCD would fold down nicely over the side SSD module for travel / storage, which would be nice.

I'm debating buying the Red Pro Touch 7.0" LCD (with LEMO connector on back),,, but I do like this side-pogo setup. Hmmmm...