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NAB News from IFX; Piranha now for Mac & Linux, $995

Kyle Mallory

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Piranha has long been a staple of my post workflow, as a diehard linux user. But I'm happy to report (unofficially, as I'm not employed by IFX) that IFX Piranha is now available for OS X, as well as Linux, at an absurd price... $995. Piranha is a complete end-to-end post suite in a single application... Conform, Edit, VFX, Paint, Color (w/ rotos/secondaries), and Render from a single tool, entirely hardware accelerated using NVidia cards (though supposedly will also run similarly well on ATI cards on OS X). Piranha provides complete support for R3D and RedCode workflows.

Unless I've misunderstood something, it appears that the entire software suite, including real-time HD-SDI in/out, Stereo and 2D-to-3D Conversion, are included for that price. Also, it appears they have created a downloadable trial.

http://ifxsoftware.com/piranha7

Please, people, check this out, for my own sake; - I need a larger community of users to share experiences with!
 
lOOKS AND SOUNDS REALLY COOL. eXCEPT FOR THEIR seriously lame website, with absolutely no real information. They need to get with the OSX times.
 
Which would you rather have? A kick-ass website, and a shitty product? or a shitty product and a kick-ass website? Seriously though, what information are you looking for? I'll admit the site isn't the coolest, and is sparse in some information, but they are a small team and it really is a matter of priorities. Ask your questions here, I'll answer them if I can, or I'll harass Tom at IFX if I can't... Maybe we can turn that discussion into new content for their site. But, really, just go download the software (you don't even have to fill out a form, just click the damn link!), you play around, adn do your best to answer your own questions. It's really not that hard, is it?

Just out of curiosity, what is the "OSX times"? I thought they did that with an version for OS X... Is there some website design standard that is dictated for every OS X product?
 
I downloaded the trial, but unfortunately it freezes (pinwheels) immediately after launching on my Mac Pro 4,1 OSX 10.6.8.

Anyone else got it running?
 
Downloading

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Downloading this now. Always interested in new options for post workflow.

I think the website is fine, but I guess if you're asking for 1K for your software, some users might be wary of paying to a cheaper looking website. If you know the folks, and they're looking for a good team that will take care of them at a decent rate, let me know as I have some friends that do web design.

-zack
 
shashbugu said:
lOOKS AND SOUNDS REALLY COOL. eXCEPT FOR THEIR seriously lame website
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Neat Video has possibly THE WORST website I have ever seen, yet it's a plugin that is in very wide use and is arguably the best cost:value noise reduction software around.

Anyway, I'm curious to hear first hand experience with this. How does the grading side compare to Da Vinci? How does the VFX aspect compare to After Effects? I love the idea of a unified, singular piece of software, but my gut instinct is to assume that by linking everything together, they had to water the various aspects of post down.
 
So I took your advice and downloaded the software. It took me a few minutes to figure the terminal app launch thingy (I assume it's still in development) I was immediately confronted with a really interesting and advanced base light style,redcinex, interface, all the bells and whistles were available. Editing, fx, grading. No good audio tools unless I couldn't find them. I am actully impressed with the playback of some Red files I tossed at it. Did some minimal Edits, some color grading, but I couldn't figure out the heads and tails of the fx interface. overall the software nails the all in one approach to post. Very clever and very smart coding. I like this program. I feel of all the software on the market today it has the most potential especially at that price point.

Editing is not for geeks but for artists. We spend most of our re-scripting and trying to figure out ways to better tell our stories. An all in one approach with vfx should be an extension of our creative juices. All I'm saying is
, I feel your software is made for the same vfx geeks out there whom use, nuke and flame.
all the bells and whistles seem forthcoming but the user interface needs some a lot of work. This a chance to really come up with a really clean graphically simplified appearance but with the current powerful tools you have.

Is there tracking? 2d 3d?
I'll play with it a little longer
. Will get back to you with some more questions suggestions





Here's the thing
1. Editing I
 
For the website not an issue with design but info reason lacking
 
Thanks for your honest feedback. I know Tom will appreciate it!

shashbugu said:
Is there tracking? 2d 3d?
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Yes, check in the "Add Effect" menu under Tracking. Add the effect and position on the point to track. There is a button between the Timeline and the Canvas that should say "Track". Click that, then play the clip. It should track that point. Now you can use that tracking data for other things. For example, you can link that to a Transform effect to tie the two for stabilization.

I'm in the process of uploading a quick (okay, its 40-minutes) of an unscripted "introduction" video that covers the basics of the interface. It'll have to wait until tomorrow night, but I'll try and do a follow up to show how to do tracking.

--Kyle
 
Oh wow! Beyond the edit interface. The fx and color grading interface are really cool. I was able to get my head around the layer based fx, I was humbled by the ease at which you can apply basic effects to clips. The effectors and physics engines remind me of those in C4D except even easier. Yep there are trackers, cameras, the whole works. Once you get into it's actually easy to use. But the interface is not really that easy on the eyes. Especially the edit interface is way too Linuxy for lack of a better term. Ifx should download the free resolve version to see how the software was brought into the OSX world.
 
Kyle Mallory said:
I'm in the process of uploading a quick (okay, its 40-minutes) of an unscripted "introduction" video that covers the basics of the interface. It'll have to wait until tomorrow night, but I'll try and do a follow up to show how to do tracking.

--Kyle
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I would LOVE that. I'm not at NAB this year, and it'd be amazing to have a video going over the general useability as well as the features that distinguish Piranha from the other options out there.
 
Okays guys, here is a very, very, quick-and-dirty intro video... http://youtu.be/xjDwTzWGE3E

Nick, unfortunately I don't spend enough time in the competing products to know what really sets Piranha apart from them; I'll fully admit, I'm biased in my point of view with regard to NLEs and compositors. My principal motivation at the time, when I first started using it 6 years ago, was "It ran on Linux, and Tom cut me a deal on the price."

Sven, I do not have any practical experience with the 3D/stereo features to really demonstrate them for you. But while I'm making a quick video on Tracking tonight, I'll see if I can make one on my limited understanding of stereo. If you have any stereo footage I can demonstrate with, that would be a great start. Also, I don't have a stereo monitor to work with, so anything that I can do, won't be any kind of scientific.

I'm trying to get Tom to poke his head in here between Demo's, but I know he's drawn between other forums and stuff too.
 
Thx a lot Kyle for taking the time to make and post this video. unfortunately can't help you with s3d footage at the moment. at least this was very interesting. thx again.
I'll probably get the software just not sure whether to use it with linux of osx.
 
any more news and links to info and tuts on Piranha?
 
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