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    Shuuto produces, delivers and sells Outlier (8x 45 minutes crime) to HBO in 5 months, using QuineCore for asset management and collaboration.
    Back in June we were approached by Shuuto. They wanted to produce a crime-series in Northern Norway with:


    • As small crew as thinkable on-set for security reasons.
    • Editors in Oslo - 1650 KM away
    • Composer VFX and online spread out over the country.
    • Rough-edits from the previous day needed to be available to the directors the next day.
    • Multiple small units shooting simultaneously
    • Masters were to be delivered late October and the series should be aired by November.

    That sounded insane. So we said YES! This is exactly a scenario we think QuineCore enables.

    Now Outlier is ready for airing, and has been bought by HBO Nordic, in addition to distribution to several international clients.
    Here is the story on how it was made and a breakdown of the tools used.



    2020 has been a crazy year for Quine. We have finally launched, we have won our first international public tender, and we have started to serve productions the way we imagined 4 years ago. Despite Corona and an 8 month hiccup on our onboarding scheme, we have served 20 productions with 192 deliverables (as in feature films and TV-episodes) this essentially non-normal year, and because of Covid, companies have really opened their eyes to the advantage of flexible solutions that let people work where they are, slim sets, tight budgets and structured file-exchange, which we started preparing 4 years ago.

    We work with broadcasters and smaller production companies, but our focus with all clients is to serve the best possible vertical solution for their production, collaboration and control needs.
    Please leave a note if you want to have a go with Quine's groundbreaking tools for Production Asset Management and collaboration from ingest, through dailies filexcheng, editing and final delivery.

    Quine's vision is that QuineCore enables new and better ways for:
    HOW people work within a production
    WHAT is possible to do
    WHO can make quality productions
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    Had a bit of press lately,

    there will be a lot more in the time to come:

    Here (Google translate)
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    So Gunleik, what did you and Quine do the last 4 years, really?



    And how do your users feel about that?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKhd...ature=youtu.be

    I guess you are looking to expand?

    Sure...


    I guess next time I hear about a company "suddenly breaking", I will think of those 4+ years of crazy dedication it took to make this sudden disruption in the force...
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    I often get the question "why is QuineCore different from X"?

    When setting up a fully virtualized workflow today that will be running for the next 6 months, the answer was kind of screaming in my face:

    We can do this today

    QuineCore has all the tools needed embedded in one workflow tool with one user management and one platform for all metadata and file-exchange.

    That's why we aren't another: dailies/review/copy/transcode/something solution, but a flexible workflow tool stretching from just copying files, to full virtualisation. Today and we can take in broadcaster, films and industrial partners into the same infrastructure and normally set up a workflow for all users and the complete lifespan of a production over a very short timespan.

    Of course we will get better, but we have come pretty far.

    See what our users say here:
    https://youtu.be/NKhdht8eIJY
    https://youtu.be/NKhdht8eIJY



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    Sneak-peak of a little something coming up


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFZL_-9h6Ys
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    I think this might be as good day as any to post this video from NAB 2019 here:



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4XI...ature=youtu.be
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    A huge shout-out to Adobe for this article of how Outlier used collaborative tools like quinecore and AdobeTeamsProject to produce the HBO and AppleTV distributed series now sold to more than 20 regions and is taken to the Berlinale by the NFI

    Read the article here

    It's really a great walkthrough of some of the tools collaborative cloudbased tools in quine's solutions and how this enabled to efficiently produce 8x45 minutes of scripted drama in 4 months with postproduction scattered all over NorthernEurope.


    Whether you want to run a production fully virtualized or like Outlier, in a distributed datamodel, uine has the tools to get you up and running.



    We are proud to have continued to collaborate with Shuuto on new productions

    Outlier used the QuineBox™IoT and it's direct integration with QuineCore to manage shooting and progress with multiple units.
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    Would like to know if the proxies can be changed on the cloud by the color grader and updated in the editor timeline?
    Or you need to nail the look on set with a DIT?

    How does your solution differ from Frame.io C2C?

    Thanks
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    Glad you asked.

    I don't know everything about frame.io, outside I know it is a great and popular tool.

    I have a hunch around what Quine does and you can fill me in.

    First:
    Proxies can be re-graded, re-framed or re-anything and dynamicaly and automatically be replaced everywhere automatically including in the editor application.
    (I should make a video on this. Thanks for reminding me.)

    The box and C2C shares a few functionalities.
    QuníneBox™IoT was initialy made to record 3x 1080 streams in multiple codecs, streaming and distributing that content on the fly with a rich frame synchronized metadataset.
    Not sure about the specifics of C2C, but we could record h.264 and say prores on the fly and then ship them (and technicay replace them) as you go.

    QuineCore vs frame.io are very different beasts as far as I can understand. But again, I may be wrong.

    Quine manages ALL assets including pdf's, location scouting, casting and when shooting starts: ingest/transcode from prep, through editorial and to delivery and integrate on a user-profile base with with all functions in a production.

    It is a review and dailies functionality in there, but those are important "user-profile" functionality, not "the system".

    Because we are ActiveDirectory based, we can integrate with larger organisations user- and securtity solutions, and let the organisations keep their existing usermanagement, user databases and security rules and just deploy what they have directly into QuineCore.

    Otherwise you would need security and usermanagement for say:

    Ingest/Transcode
    Local assets
    Dailies
    review
    Aspera/Signiant
    etc etc etc.

    Single sign-in means a lot when you produce a lot.

    We work towards integrating all file-management and user-management for productions from planning to master-delivery within one system, so that you don't need 7+ tools and 7+ specialists to do what is "essentially the same thing".

    This approach is what is making it possible for us to onboard some large producers.

    We try to simplify the entire process and make things like VFX delivery a user-managable task, either through letting the house pick their own plates or conveniently let the editor send off files (like mic in camera) as they go.

    We assist ingester, logger, editor, producer, clients, and partners with automated, secure datamanagement and flow with their applications and if neccessary between the houses, or these days: Their homes.

    Business wise, we can sell QuineCore as an application on oure clients Azure, not forcing them to put their most valuable assets: The files, with us.

    What this means is that the clients own their own assets and security and again easily can sync with their existing usermanagement and security regime. AD is the industry standard for security and serves Disney, HBO, Broadcasters to name a few.

    Expense-wise, that is huge.

    Our management in the webUI is categorized and that we 100% can control who has access to what and what they can do with the data itself or enclosed metadata.

    We parse the files on ingest so that all critical file-info is available at any stage in the process.
    Integrate with on-set scripting tools and mix and match the scriptnotes automatically with the files

    We let you send all that to premiere, and automate the review file management, and can of course can get the notes framebased back to Premiere.

    That is why we can serve as the production asset management, collaboration, dailies, review, VFX integration tool for larger clients and automate a robust home-edit solution (like in this example) or fully virtualized productions (where everything resides in the cloud, including the tools).

    One thing I know is very different, is that we are very flexible as to how and when what data is uploaaded to the cloud.

    In our experience it is not true that there are 10gbit ethernet lines everywhere. So you can for example ony copy and transcode on-set, and then upload the dailies when you get home and the originals as needed.

    Because the cloud transactions happen (mostly automated) through QI instead of web solution, they are all fast, verified and structured and checksummed in all transactions, downloads are structured and:

    yes we can replace a clip with the wrong LUT in the entire chain and into the editor program.

    I guess some of the background differences is that we started off with 4 years of research on metadata management, automation and the technical challenges of multi-user exchanges with the like of EBU, technicolor and multiple others before we made our first web button.

    It is possible that I am all wrong about this, and frame is a lovely review tool and they now have a way to get files from camera to cloud, which we have had in productions since 2016 (that is before we decided to form Quine.)

    Simply put, we can automate and set up workflows like the one in the image and let it be user-management.

    You can use Aspera with us, but it is not a requirement.
    That is true for a few other tools needed to securely manage production data.

    We do serve both scripted and non-scripted productions, but I would guess that is true for both applications.

    I have two analogies I use for Quine when talking to non-industry people:

    We're like Amazon: A seamless infrastructure solution. that gets the right assets and right metadata in the right version to the right user

    We're like an automated gearbox
    Very few actually can fix it, even fewer can create one.
    But you don't need to know the inner mechanics of an automated gearbox to drive a car.



    If there is some difference between frame.io and us, I guess you'll have to fill me in.
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    Excuse me for a technical rambling, but as a guy who comes from music, both as a performer and compositor, who somehow went astray into the world of imagery and in a way have come to lead a team of IT guys, I sometimes feel very much lost when dealing with the art of cooperation and creating a common language.

    And then I stumbled across this:

    https://youtu.be/FL4LxrN-iyw

    https://youtu.be/FL4LxrN-iyw

    Not really Quine related, but definitely philosophically "right" to me in the role I currently have and in the way I hoped all creative cooperations could practically work.

    People just spend too much time on showing off other peoples wrongdoings over making their own common efforts work out.
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