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  1. #1 6K Dragon-X DSMC2 Petition! 
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    Talked to Jarred - DSMC1 to DSMC2 Dragon-X for $9,950! Page updated/live on now!


    For those of you who have a Scarlet-W or Weapon Mg, check this out:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarred Land View Post
    Ok all... this looks like this will go live December 17th(ish)

    But since this started here for you all, you guys can get a head start to jump in and book your reservations now so when its time you are at the front of the line.

    You'll need to game the system a bit and use the existing upgrade form on to kick the process off as it is the easiest and quickest way to get your information in. The details listed will be wrong but ignore all that we are just using the form to get your name serial etc.

    SCARLET-W and WEAPON-MG users pricing for the upgrade is $4950.

    Existing Dragon-X 5k owners will get the free firmware around the 17th as well, and if you want to send your camera in to get the 5k changed to 6k it will cost $150 for the paint touchup version, if you want a full 6k front enclosure change let your rep know we need to see how many of you are so we can see batch opportunities to keep the pricing down.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jarred Land View Post
    This is gong to extend until we finish everyone on the petition list when that closes down the 17th. I think it should last about a month to get through eveyrone? at least everyone scheduled etc. So everyone better get their name on that list.

    This isn't a normal program remember..... this is a one off thing for the people by the people and our accountants really would love to see this whole thing go away as soon as possible :)
    Get your orders in now to jump in line!


    We did it! See the below post - this is such an incredible offer - thank you, Jarred!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarred Land View Post
    no no, I don't think we need to adjust the price... the 5k Dragon-X already have 6K sensors in them. We just need about a month of software work to get IPP2 working on 6k Dragons.

    This wont work on Raven.. those sensors are hard 4.5k sensors. And some dragon sensors were software masked down to a smaller resolution that had defects down to a smaller resolution but that was mostly the VV dragons.

    And this wont work on DSMC1 users on the list because remember the unified internal boards didn't happen until DSMC2.... But I think most of you have an upgrade path to Dragon-X so you can just do that to get you to this.

    So.... the cleanest way to do this since our friend looks like he is gonna get his 50 signatures is to just turn the 5K Dragon-X into 6K Dragon-x and then let the Scarlet-W and MG folks do that normal $4995 upgrade to them.

    A bit messy on our side.. some cameras will need more changes some less, but I think it will all balance out in the end and the upgrade fee Scarlet-W and MG users pay should cover the expense of doing this.. and Dragon-X owners just wake up with a better camera after hopefully just a new firmware... so I don't think we will need to charge any more for new Dragon-X 6K cameras.. the 5K Dragon-X just goes away, and Dragon-X owners are forever indebted to the MG and Scarlet-W guys and girls that initiated this change in the program.

    The biggest problem with this is a cosmetic one. Scarlet-W and MG users that do this will get new bodies that will say Dragon-X 6k on them so they are ok.. but existing Dragon-X owners with 5K branded on their cameras that now shoot 6k will need to either live with that.. or we can figure out some sort of body upgrade fee to swap out that front panel if it bothers them. Kind of the worst panel to change because it requires a full camera rebuild just to change that, but still I don't see that being more than $500 or $600.

    How does that sound?


    So, this started on the Ranger Trade In Program Begins thread.

    I'm one of many people who have held on to the dearly beloved Weapon MG because it has a gorgeous 6K Dragon sensor.

    I asked Jarred if we could upgrade just the boards in the MG to make a DSMC2 6K Dragon, as the current route is only going to Gemini 5K.

    Here's what followed:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarred Land View Post
    heh heh heh.... thats the real question, why wouldn't you want to goto Gemini? You just want the new boards in the DSMC2 body with your existing Dragon sensor?
    Quote Originally Posted by BrendanLeahy View Post
    Yeah, I (and others!) love the 6K Dragon sensor for sure!
    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Tresch View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jarred Land View Post
    Get 50 more of those +1's and lets start a dialogue. Dragon-X could become 6k DSMC2 with some effort which I think would fill all you OG Dragon lovers needs.
    This is HUGE, so I wanted to see: who all would like to see a 6K Dragon-X DSMC2 upgrade path?

    Please put a +1 and what camera you currently own, just to give RED an idea of who is looking at this, and what camera you'd be coming from. I'm guessing this would still be primarily for MG owners, but we'll see what the Chief says!
    Last edited by BrendanLeahy; 12-17-2019 at 02:12 PM.

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    Would it have better low light abilities than DSMC 1?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Jones View Post
    Would it have better low light abilities than DSMC 1?
    Yes, I had a 6k dsmc2 and there is somthing there for sure. Dont know if its only the higher bitrate or that and optical path but I noticed it being less noisy than my dsmc1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Björn Benckert View Post
    Yes, I had a 6k dsmc2 and there is somthing there for sure. Dont know if its only the higher bitrate or that and optical path but I noticed it being less noisy than my dsmc1
    Graeme stated the new boards in DSMC2 resulted in cleaner images from the same sensor. I have the MG Dragon 6K and there was certainly an improvement over DSMC1 Dragon.

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